By Antonio D. French
Filed Thursday, August 10 at 5:00 AM
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132 Comments:
Just curious, why are qualified, displaced teachers being placed after teachers from reconstituted schools who didn't even bother to reapply anywhere?
Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:52:00 AM
anon #1, who else was displaced? Were there other classroom teacher layoffs besides the reconstituted school people or are you talking about central office staff?
Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:55:00 AM
As far as I know, there were no teacher lay-offs. I'm referring to teachers at schools such as Cleveland or Meda P. Washington who have yet to be informed where to report. The displaced staff will be reassigned, but were told they were displaced sometime after the transfer window closed, thus leaving them in limbo until they are told anything further.
Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:29:00 AM
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Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:38:00 AM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: Antonio, s'il vous plait, please remove the previous anonymous post. C'est disgusting, mon ami.
That is not free speech; it's obscene and has nothing to do with the topic. Monsieur Downs would not print such stuff.
Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:14:00 AM
P. Diddy Downs and Antiono B.K.A. Twon in the hood are in voliolation of my 1st amendment rights as a cetizen of the usa. Stop deleting my commemnts, I have a right to say what I feel is the turth.
Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:26:00 PM
Learn how to spell, Mr. Small Balls. And pick a more respectful handle. This site is valued by people wanting to have intelligent dialogue about issues relating to St. Louis Public Schools. So come up to our level instead of trying to drag us down to yours.
Thank you, Antonio and/or Peter, for deleting that disgusting comment.
Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:51:00 PM
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Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:30:00 PM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: C'est dommage. It's sad. The last posting could be more of a bait than a racist.
Mais, mes amis, but my friends, it's time to get such ugliness off a blog dealing with les enfrants the children's futures.
Il me semble, it seems to me that by allowing the one "M---fer" handle on this site, it opened up a can of worms. Once the filthy language creeps or seeps in from the sewage pipe, it draws more filth.
We need bons suggestions on how to keep the comments meaningful, substantive, and appropriate. Any suggestions from vous autres (you others)?
Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:43:00 PM
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Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:33:00 PM
There are still teachers (tenured) receiving phone calls as late as today letting them know they have been displaced. They are given an option of two or three choices of where they want to go and then assigned. It is unfortunate. It can be bad for the employee and the building when teachers are just assigned.
Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:53:00 PM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: Monsieur, second last anonymous, non!, Non! I will not shut up.
Evidement, you are not an intelligent person who can discuss the issues. So why should anyone shut up, comme vous dites, for you?
The people at the Arch City Chronicle would not put up with such a ninny as you, monsieur. If you can't discuss, debate, converse, you have nothing to say.
We are discussing les ecoles (schools), les enfants (children), and autres choses importantes (other important issues). Throwing out your foul verbage shows how crude, rude, and stupid you are.
Now, pourquoi pas, why not try to prove to everyone you have a brain somewhere. Non, non, non! I will not shut up.
Merci, monsieur.
Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:16:00 PM
I would also like to know who is running the schools. The union has entirely too much input in school and classroom placement. They are not MEATCUTTERS they are teachers. Seniority does not make a good teacher, experience and proven success does.
I am a parent that is deeply upset over the loss of great teachers in my child's school. Great teachers that have lost their positions to teachers of higher seniority.
How is this in the best interest of the children?
Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:53:00 PM
Dear unionbasher "There are good tenured teachers out there and that is why they haven’t been displaced."
The problem with your statement is that it assumes that good teachers weren't displaced. As the parent pointed out in a later post, great teachers at her child's school were displaced.
Certain schools, whose staffs weren't reconstituted, had to make staffing decisions based on seniority rather than dedication and best fit for the program. These displaced teachers were informed of this decision long after the transfer window had closed and thus never had opportunity to interview with anyone. This is unfortunate, and is something that needs to be addressed by the union.
To anon who said that teachers (tenured) are receiving phone calls, if you don't mind, how do you know this? Have you received a phone call?
Friday, August 11, 2006 2:13:00 AM
Dear Blog Administator, Thank you for deleting the marginally literate filth of Mr Teeny Weeny.
Friday, August 11, 2006 5:13:00 AM
I have had friends that were called this week that they were displaced due to low projected enrollment. One teacher in particular is probably the best teacher in the building. I think if their enrollment numbers are accurate that it is better to adjust teachers now then to wait until October. Typically in October classrooms are opened or closed due to enrollment and it causes chaos for the children. Many have to adjust to new teachers and six weeks of learning is jeapordized or they been in an overcrowded room for six weeks and learning has not taken place. This is especially difficult for children who need a routine and a level of security to develop a positive relationship with a teacher. It is rough on all students but students that come from unstable home lives have a difficult time recovering from losing the one constant in their school. The only schools that historically have been accurate on their projected enrollment have been magnet schools since the number of students are preset. It is very difficult to predict neighborhood school numbers as there is a high rate of moving by families. For example, I had one school year when only 2 students on my projected enrollment of 20 showed up.
Friday, August 11, 2006 6:57:00 AM
past employee, there is a reason your a "past employee!"
Friday, August 11, 2006 11:26:00 AM
Mr. Whatever, you're an idiot. You can't even spell, therefore, not very smart either. And your children? I'd hate to even imagine! Hopefully you have none. Therefore, I've decided nothing you have to say is of any relevence. Do you even know what that means??????????
Pink Panther/Inspector Clouseau-absolutely LOVE your blogs. Keep it up. Makes me think! Haven't seen that much french since college! Mr. Whatever, bet you don't even know what french is!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha-that's me laughing at YOU!
Friday, August 11, 2006 1:27:00 PM
Just heard on the radio (590) that Veronica O'Brien's request for a restraining order was denied.
Friday, August 11, 2006 2:59:00 PM
You didn't really think that anything that Veronica O'Brien said would have stood up in any court room. This woman is crazy and I hope that they leave her alone because she gets too much media attention.
Friday, August 11, 2006 3:36:00 PM
O'Brien hasn't gotten anymore or less than Williams with heis pipe dreams or Irons and his gang.
Friday, August 11, 2006 6:15:00 PM
Veronica might not have gotten her restraining order, but they didn't get her to pay for both attorneys as requested. The judge denied that request.
You should have seen how sick it was that Irons and Johnson claimed it is about the kids. It's all about someone's salary, and not one iota about the kids.
They are bullies. There just wasn't enough corroborating evidence to prove them in the wrong.
Friday, August 11, 2006 8:01:00 PM
Are there any other teachers out there who still don't know where they are supposed to report on Wednesday?
Friday, August 11, 2006 9:01:00 PM
Any chance we can keep this an O'Brien-free section of the blog. There's a discussion dedicated to that thread a few clicks away. I'm actually quite interested in this discussion about who will be teaching my kid next year, and where the teachers bumped from his school are being placed.
As for the comments posted by mr. f.n., please just ignore them and do not bait him further. Delete them, yes. But the law of diminishing returns suggests that if we stop responding to his posts, they'll become less frequent and pretty soon they'll disappear completely.
Friday, August 11, 2006 9:28:00 PM
Supposedly a mailing went out stating where teachers are to report. But if history repeats itself as it usually does with this district I will probably (if I get it at all) find out Tuesday where I am suppose to go. Makes it hard to plan for babysitters for those of us who have children. Let alone I think I know where I will be teaching but that to is still up in the air. I do not the reasoning why administrators are afraid to share information about where teachers are supposed to be. Everything has to be hush hush. You would think we have to have high security clearance in order to find out where we are teaching and what we are teaching. Then again the administrators at 801 may think they have passed the information along where they actually did not. Or the principals did get the information and it is buried under a pile of papers on their desk. One last possibility is that the information is sitting in the teachers’ mailboxes at the school where they are supposed to teach. A lot a good that would do since Wednesday thru Friday are curriculum inservices. According to the district calendar the first day teachers are to report to their schools is on Monday, August 21. Then spend two more days of inservice and three days preparing their classroom.
Friday, August 11, 2006 9:59:00 PM
Teacher's go back to work on August 16th not the 21st. Go to the SLPS Homepage. Right there is the schedule for all SLPS staff, and when and where they are to report. If you're still not sure, but know where you're assigned, call the principal at your school or human resources at 801.
Friday, August 11, 2006 10:58:00 PM
It's different depending on what you do. I know elementary teachers to to Gateway Complex Aug. 16-18,and 21-22. Then we report to our schools for a day of inservice and 2 days class prep. I received a letter from my principal and saw the into on the SLPS website. We are receiving lunch daily. That's already a morale booster!
Friday, August 11, 2006 11:02:00 PM
Mr. Anonymous who made a post about my kids, I bet you wont make that post with your real name and zipcode!!! I bet that, Now what, I'll find you, then what... Im a man, I desreve respect like everyone else, So what I talke the way I do, if it wasnt for the hood may life would have been differnet, but I deserve R-E-S-P-E-C-T! iF Someone on here needs a smack, Im smackin wit words, thats life, people talk trash on the streets, what do you do? put tape on they mouths? everybody got a voice, Just becaus yall got degrees and educations you act like im not a person too! and thats how it is on the streets, Everytime in lettin somebody kno on here I get my comments kicked off, but let you say the same thing with a "pHd voice" yo comment stays, Not fair!!!
Friday, August 11, 2006 11:09:00 PM
Ah yes, give the teachers some food and amusement and they'll forget all about the mismanagement of the schools. I'm pretty sure Rome did the same thing...
Did anyone else notice that the P-D days listed for teachers are called "Destination Accreditation?" Perhaps that has something to do with the fact that Dr. Hammonds has been seen in and around 801 recently. Has he been "hired back" as a consultant?
So, letters went out...maybe Friday afternoon? You mean I might know where I'm teaching tomorrow! Great!
Mr. Fat Nuts, unfortunately after the way some of us teachers have been treated, I agree with the phrasing of your first comment that was deleted. However, while I do respect your right to have an opinion, it's difficult to take your comments seriously when phrased as they are. This anon doesn't think you are uneducated at all, quite the contrary.
Saturday, August 12, 2006 2:10:00 AM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: Monsieur Fat Nutts, no one dismisses what you have to say if you communicate with sincerity and plain English. It's when you begin to use language children are suspended or expelled for that some take issue.
Keep it clean, and you will be taken serious. It's rude, crude, and disrespectful of others to resort to obscenities. C'est mon opinion, mon amis (That's my opinion, friend).
It's not about degrees. It's about discretion and discernment. If you are upset about something, you can use DDT and blast away (Discretion, Discernment, Tact).
C'est amusant, n-est-pas? (It's amusing, isn't it?)
As for giving teachers lunch, that is such a small act of kindness to boost morale and show appreciation for their coming in early to prepare for the opening of school. For the past three years, they have been beaten down, slandered, and attacked.
As Marie Antoinette said but didn't mean: "Let them eat cake." J'aime les francais and their words of wisdom.
Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:42:00 AM
I hope Hammonds is around. Whenever he was superintendant I saw him in the schools in which I was teaching regularly. He always had a smile, words of encouragement and praise to pass out. As far as Destination accreditation - it's about time!!!
Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:17:00 AM
I know what you mean about Hammonds being in the schools and positive. I saw Williams once, he was with a posse, stuck his head in the room and did not say boo to my students or me. They had no idea who he was and I didn't tell them because he should have introduced himself to them and given a little speech or words of encouragement. As for Roberti he was in the building once on the first day of school. He walked in and said, "Where's the Secretary?" He wanted attendance numbers. We're all better off without this type of leadership. Serving us lunch is kind and makes me feel respected. I look forward to doing whatever I can to get our district accreditated.
Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:28:00 AM
Williams visited my room once too. You would have thought I didn't belong there the way he was frowning. He also didn't say anything to the kids who were all on task. He gave me the creeps and I'm glad he stayed away. The only time I ever heard of him interacting with students was when the cameras were rolling. Why did he need so many people to walk with him all dressed in expensive suits. What a waste of money for his posse, driver etc. Good Riddance to him!
Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:41:00 AM
Mr. Williams was always about presenting the illusion of progress, not substance. Does anyone remember his "interview" at Vashon? He ran down an entire list of "programs" he was going to start in order to save our children. Half of the audience (those who don't work in the schools) walked out in awe of him...the employees of the district walked out wondering, "Where are you going to get the money for all of this?" and "What are you going to do about ALTERNATIVE SETTINGS FOR DISRUPTIVE STUDENTS?" Maybe your schools aren't too bad, but I know in my school the greatest amount of time lost comes from dealing with DISCIPLINE issues. We are failing all of the kids by not placing the disruptive ones in alternative settings. Sorry this is too long.
Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:16:00 AM
Or were the interviews at Carr Lane?
Saturday, August 12, 2006 12:10:00 PM
Yo pink, you say keep in clean and students get supended for using bad words that I was using? Have you been to slps high schools or middle schools in the last 10-15yrs? because cussing is a way of life in schools, no one gets supended anymore for that!
Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:51:00 PM
"Yo pink, you say keep in clean and students get supended for using bad words that I was using? Have you been to slps high schools or middle schools in the last 10-15yrs? because cussing is a way of life in schools, no one gets supended anymore for that!"
Who is this?
Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:51:00 PM
jim heger take note of this from the August 6th PD:
Students returning to class will be attending smaller high schools and ninth-grade academies. New configurations are planned for many elementary and middle schools.
A district-operated alternative high school to serve socially and academically troubled students marks the most significant departure from what Williams envisioned this fall, Bourisaw said.
Saturday, August 12, 2006 6:07:00 PM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: Mais oui, Monsieur Fat Nutts. I have been to middle schools and high schools and have worked in them.
Oui, students use such language because of mauvais home backgrounds, but in some schools they are suspended. It's in the rules. If they aren't, someone isn't following the rules.
S'il vous plait, monsieur Fat Nutts, notice how plain, simple, and intelligent the other bloggers are. They show respect and don't dis anyone as you do. They don't need obscenities to make their point. They make it with plain, simple common sense and common English.
Give it a try, monsieur. You will feel so proud of yourself when others recognize you have something worthwhile to say.
Speak clean and peut-être we can become des bons amis. Are you a parent, monsieur Fat Nutts?
À tout à l'heure.
Saturday, August 12, 2006 6:53:00 PM
Spiro, thanks for the info. I had heard rumors about this, but...it's hard to believe anything sometimes. This is one of those times. Any move to re-establish alt. schools is good but the move to establish discipline must be taken to the lower grades, as well. To limit alt. schools to high schools is just treating a symptom. We need lots of alternative programs at every level. Until this is done, I'm afraid entire schools will be destined for failure (continued failure). As far as reconfiguring elementary schools to include 6th 7th and/or 8th grades...putting middle schoolers with elementary age kids is a huge mistake. A lot of the time the younger kids are doing exactly what they were taught to do by the older kids. Also, having larger populations in schools (this will happen because of building costs) inevitably leads to more fights and disorder (no learning). I encourage everyone to volunteer one week, all day, in a North St. Louis elem., middle, or high school. Lots of good kids are being dragged down early. By the way, I do like some of what Mr. Williams did, some his HS ideas are good, (though maybe not original), but damn...the man was getting paid for more than what we got.
Saturday, August 12, 2006 7:03:00 PM
Has anyone seen the news? Floyd Irons received a letter stating his services as a teacher were no longer needed. The letter was dated with a July date.
I will not participate in bashing or supporting Floyd Irons, my point is he received the letter today by mail and the SLPS is claiming ingnorance, however, it was signed by on of the deptartment heads of Human Resources.
Total and complete chaos, I have already posted regarding the displacement of great teachers at my child's school. What is wrong with us as parents that we are standing by and letting this happen to our kids? Unless we stand together as parents we are guilty for allowing this to happen. I encourage all of you to bombard the administrative offices with phone calls and emails, contact your principal, I have been doing this and I believe we can be heard. Our children are beginning school in 2 short weeks and this chaos is not in their best interests!
Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:27:00 PM
Please let Floyd Irons GO! He has done enough damage. Whether that letter firing him was genuine or not, he needs to go. The issue is the children and what will best serve their needs. A grown man (professional?) and his mob harrasing the school board president to get his job back has nothing to do with the SLPS children. They shouldn't have to be exposed to this immature grownup behavior.
Veronica O'Brien is one of the board members who voted to re-instate bus transportation for all students who live a mile or more away from school. The previous school board had mandated that the students would catch public transportation or walk unless they lived 2 miles or more from school. I wonder where the mob was when that decision was made? I also wonder where the mob was when Roberti made the decision to close 16 schools in North St. Louis. I also question where the mob was when Creg Williams displaced 1000 teachers. There is no suburban district in this area that he could have done such a thing.
Please check the voting record of this new school board majority, I have. They have seriously tried to make decisions in the best interest of our children. So, the dialogue should not be about anyone who is not trying to provide our children with the best. Floyd Irons & the superintendent can move on, these kids cannot.
About the displaced teachers: There was no criteria used. The superintendent arbitrarily notified 1000 teachers and told them to re-apply for their jobs. This decision was not based on evaluations, etc, just power. The school board has to deal with that chaos, since Creg Williams sent out those letters without board approval. My hat goes off to them for continuing their commitment (despite the constant attacks & charges), because they are doing a public service; they are not being paid a salary for such an immense burden. Please consider some of these factors before joining in the attacks. We want the best for our children, as they are the future.
If you really want the facts, GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS, get the agenda and watch the votes. Then, you will be able to debate/agree in an informed manner.
Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:48:00 PM
This whole thing about Irons getting the certified letter in the mail on Saturday worries me a little. I really could care less about the Irons debate in general, but I can see the anon parent's point. If this letter was JUST sent out, how many more letters were also sent out? Will other teachers be getting these letters on Monday -- 2 days before they are supposed to report?
The teachers at Vashon, Sumner and Roosevelt were "reconstituted" because of standards in place by NCLB. The district had to show they were doing something radical to improve the schools. Technically, under NCLB these teachers were supposed to be FIRED. SLPS was able to negotiate with the state to just reassign these teachers...as Williams said, "rearrange the deck chairs." Many great, effective teachers at these schools re-applied to work at the same school. Some chose to transfer to another opening, and a third group at each school decided to do nothing stating, "what's the worst that could happen...they place me back here?" If the teachers from the 3rd group are displaced, it's their own fault for not being proactive in trying to keep a position. With that in mind, if you want to see public protest -- then protest the federal government, they are the ones who passed NCLB and created this reconstitution mess -- not the BOE.
That being said, sadly, there is a 4th group of teachers. This group of teachers, through no fault of their own, were just displaced because of declining enrollment or changes in program. This is the group of teachers I believe the parent is possibly upset about and the ones who are starting to fear getting one of those certified letters like Irons received.
Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:00:00 AM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: Mes amis, the letter Floyd Irons received was signed by one of Dr. Williams' cronies that he hired. The fact that it was dated in July and just received is très suspicious. This is not the act of the present head of the Human Resource Department.
Monsieur Irons has his friends and cronies in various places. C'est possible (It is possible) this is just a ruse to draw attention and stir up trouble that is being played out by his friends.
Soon, monsieur Irons will be distracted by the serious charges against him for the brutal and unnecessary beating of a student.
Remember, mes amis, some people are très, très clever in stirring up trouble and making it look like it is someone else's fault.
Attendez! Wait, to see what will transpire.
À bientôt, mes amis. (Soon, my friends)
Sunday, August 13, 2006 5:59:00 AM
As I stated in my original point, I will not get into a pissing match for or against Floyd Irons or Creg Williams for that matters. I am not a fan of Veronica O'Brien's, I believe she is in over her head. I also hold her responsible for the CHAOS we are experiencing right now, it just wasn't the right time to bring in a new superintendent. As a parent and a taxpayer who has had repeated diffficulties with the SLPS I wholeheartedly believed this situation could not get any worse, I am facing the reality of that idea right now, 2 weeks before the beginning of the school year. I have deep concerns for my child. I am an involved parent, who has had repeated negative experiences with the SLPS and I did have hopes of Mr. Williams turning this situation around, for the record, none of the bloggers have the right to criticize me for having had these hopes. I am currently concerned with the "right now". I will not dwell on the past, the current situation is chaotic and I am tired of hearing the "better for the children", this is obviously not in their best interest. I am tired of the politics, this is about my child's and every SLPS child's education, we are in deep despair. I have attented a board meeting, I do attend my child's scheduled conferences and I am a disciplinarian in my home. I am concerned about the "great" teachers that are being displaced however, I am not afraid to admit I could give a rats ass about the teachers of seniority, as my personal experiences have proved these teachers are mediocre at best. The senior teachers may have lost their drive because of the constant turmoil in the SLPS and that is a damn shame, however, I do not want them teaching my child. I do not believe the union belongs in this issue,as I stated previously we are not employing meatcutters we are employing teachers. I am not a union basher, I was raised by a single parent of 4 who was a union member, however, there is a huge difference between grocery workers or factory workers and teachers. If I had the financial resources to send my child to a private school I would, if I had the financial resources to purchase a home in the county, I would, I am a city homeowner that has the right to expect a decent education for my son. I advocate for my child, I provide the medical resources that he requires and I am so involved I have been labeled as "pushy!", I am proud of that label as I demand the educational resources my child needs.
Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:06:00 AM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: Mais, Madame, the last anonymous, comment (how) can you hold Madame O'Brien responsible for the present chaos that is nothing like the chaos of the past trois (3) years? Elle (She) is not personally responsible for the superintendent resigning and what happened to monsieur Irons.
Monsieur Irons has been making a negative mark for himself for some time, especially with finances and bullying.
The superintendent put chaos in summer school and in all sorts of areas. He never had the experience of being a superintendent of a large school district.
He also hired many friends and family members who are responsible for the present chaos.
S'il vous plait, madame, place the blame where it belongs, with the previous administration and cronies.
Merci, madame, and I wish you real success with your child. Vous avez eu (You have had) a hard way to go, mais (but) it seems you are vraiment dedicated to the wellbeing of your enfant.
Sunday, August 13, 2006 3:53:00 PM
I respect those who feel that Dr. Williams was unfairly dismissed. However, as a longtime teacher in the district, I believe that he was the educational equivalent of "The Music Man." Very charming, convincing, and personable--and with far more style than substance.
HIs much-ballyhooed "mandatory" summer school for all 8th grade students was a joke. There were serious issues in getting the needed number of materials, which required teachers to teach WITHOUT materials of any kind until some arrived, and to share workbook materials that were designed to be used by individual students.
Big deal you say? Try keeping the attention of 30+ 8th graders for 127 minutes per class period in an unairconditioned classroom without teaching materials for two or three days--fun doesn't begin to describe it!
Missouri requires students to be in attendance for 60 hours in order to receive credit for summer school coursework. If a student misses more than two class periods, they cannot receive credit--and are withdrawn from summer school. The 8th grade students however, were not held to this standard. It was typical for many students to take multiple "vacations" of 2-3 days throughout the summer. Summer school ran for six weeks, yet 8th grade students were still enrolling in summer school as of week five. What kind of real learning is taking place under these conditions? When one reads that the district had 90-plus percent of all 8th graders enrolled in summer school, keep what I've written in mind.
The core problem for the 8th grade students lay in the fact that students were receiving grades for their summer school work--BUT NOT CREDIT. Once the word got out, summer school became little more than daycare for a significant number of these students. The 8th graders accounted for fully 90 percent of all fights and discipline issues at the school where I was assigned. Small wonder, given the circumstances!
The push for 8th graders to be in summer school can also be viewed as a financial aid for the district. Unlike the regular school year, every district's summer school is funded ENTIRELY by the state of Missouri--and that funding amount is based on the number of students in attendance each day. While the casual observer may view Dr. Williams' mandate for 8th graders to attend summer school as a step taken by a concerned administrator, it also can be viewed as a means of improving the district's financial picture.
For teachers who were doing "credit recovery" (courses that students had not passed during the regular year), they spent 3 hours at Clyde Miller in "inservices" on the Kaplan curriculum for summer school. The "inservices" were taught by the newly-displaced Curriculum Coaches (their positions were eliminated because of Dr. Spampinato's funding boo-boo). The presenter for my group informed us that they had been notified of their participation THE DAY BEFORE. Consequently, they were no better prepared or informed than we teachers. To the best of my knowledge, there was not a single Kaplan representative conducting the inservices.
The summer school curriculum was not based on semester-specific requirements, but rather the 5-6 areas in which SLPS students had scored the lowest on the Kaplan benchmarks. In short, there was a single curriculum for each subject taught in summer school--and the curriculum may or may not cover the material that a student failed to master. If a student failed a course for an entire year, we were supposed to teach them the same material IN EACH PERIOD. Can you imagine sitting in a classroom for 2+ hours, doing the exact same thing you did the first period? Not surprisingly, many teachers questioned the logic of this --and were met with polite smiles & silence from our presenters. After all, what could they say?
While most teachers I know adapted the curriculum to meet the needs of the "two-semester" students in their classrooms, I am also certain that some did not--out of fear for their jobs. Why? Well don't forget that the district had already removed some teachers who were not strictly following the Kaplan-mandated timeline and curriculum, and had done likewise with elementary teachers who weren't rigidly adhering to Open Court.
If you question those who charge that Dr. Williams was doing serious harm to the district, consider my post as "Exhibit A" in the case for the prosecution.
Monday, August 14, 2006 8:59:00 AM
I'm tired...just tired. Every year there is a new un-folding chaos. This year's seems to be staffing issues.
Here we are, two days before we report to our assigned locations and many teachers are still unassigned. So, let the bumping begin. Honestly, I absolutely hate the idea of bumping because you might bump someone who was a great fit at a certain school. But after being told by HR today that they might not be able to find a position for me unless they begin bumping...bump away! HR said I MIGHT get a phone call tomorrow...would be nice to know tomorrow considering that would make a difference as to where I report on Wednesday.
Monday, August 14, 2006 4:03:00 PM
As a parent of two children in the SLPS, I've come to this opinion--do what I can at the school my kids go to and don't even think about the rest of this stuff going on. If parents do what helps the teachers and principal at our school, the school will run better. The kids will learn. At least mine will, because I'm making sure of it. Who the superintendent is has very little impact on the daily school life of my children. I will support every good teacher we have, and I'll complain loudly if I run across one who isn't doing the job. If we all clean up our own little world, the big one will fall in place. I know, you all think I'm naive. I get that lots of parents out there are working tons to keep food on the table and volunteering at school isn't a high priority. If they reiterate at home that education matters the kids will understand. Anyway, that's my answer to the frustrated parents who want parents to band together in defense of our kids. Start where we can make a difference and then the Board and Superintendent don't really matter that much.
Monday, August 14, 2006 6:17:00 PM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: To the anonymous parent of two children, Bravo, Bravo to you, Madame.
You speak with truth and common sense. Bien sure, the superintendent counts, but the local school, its principal, and teachers count most for your children. Vous have the right idee! Keepit up.
Madame, vous have beaucoup of my respect. Bravo encore to vous!
Monday, August 14, 2006 6:26:00 PM
Oui, Pink, that parent is actually doing what everyone else is just saying - putting the children first. We could all take a page from that book.
Monday, August 14, 2006 8:58:00 PM
Any one know the status of teacher assignments?
Monday, August 14, 2006 9:57:00 PM
Hey Pete,
The answer to that question is "on-going." I received a phone message yesterday and was placed not in my subject area, but into a position I am not certified to teach. Very frustrating.
I went down to the BOE to speak to someone (because phones are not answered) and was met with, "So, are you saying you don't want this job?" I told the person that if it was a choice between unemployment and taking this position, I'd take the position, but to PLEASE find me something in my subject area.
I was told my subject area was low-need and that the people in my area of certification have been around forever. My decade's worth of experience didn't amount to anything compared to them. She then said that the only way she'd probably be able to find a position is if they started bumping people.
I really, really don't like the idea of bumping teachers for the same reason as a previous post. When you bump, you could be taking a highly effective teacher away from a position and a school where they have the trust of their children, may have been coaching, and have the support of the administration and parents. How is bumping in the best interest of students? It's not. The only interest it will serve is my own in getting a job. So, for me, a person who really does care about what is best for the kids, this whole experience has left me angry, conflicted and confused. Do I accept a position I'm not qualified for? Or do I bump a person to another school or possibly to unemployment?
Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:38:00 AM
How can you teach a position that you are uncertified for? I am assuming that you will be given provisional certification and be expected to take classes to achieve the proper certification. As a teacher myself, I would suggest that you consider bumping because you may become stuck in an area that you are not interested in and that would not be beneficial to you or to the children. You may bump someone who is a great asset to a school but you may also bump someone who is terrible. There is no way for you to tell at this point. I am a teacher that was bumped from an elementary special education position and was forced to teach high school. I wasn't particularly happy but I adapted and did my best. I stayed there for two years and now have transferred back to elementary school. Good luck in whatever you do. Great teachers can adapt and do what is right for the children even in unexpected situations.
Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:33:00 AM
This is just sad...
Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:42:00 AM
There is an anon parent back a ways that pointed out that the Board and Supt. don't matter that much if we take care of our own little space. Amen. Also, employees have been being bumped around this district for a long time. I'm not sure if is a good thing or a bad thing, but it is a FACT. There are "good" and "bad" teachers just as in any profession. There are legitimate ways to get rid of "bad" teachers. Maybe the principals don't follow the necessary steps (paperwork) to do so. There is a policy dealing with this. It identifies the problem areas, designs strategies to deal with those areas, monitors results, etc...The problem may be that principals are overworked (just as some teachers are) and don't have the time (or desire) to do the paperwork. It is easier to try and transfer an employee out and hope they don't fight it. This is where the union becomes important. I have a problem with firing, or violating the rights of teachers who may just need some help. The SLPS has a hard time recruiting teachers (for all of the obvious reasons). If we get an employee who is willing to devote themselves to their job (education) in St. Louis, then let's train them, not throw them to the curb. Many employees of the SLPS are ALUMNI of the SLPS. That says something about the quality of education they received.
Maybe we (the SLPS) failed them as well. We will find out tomorrow if our Professional Development will be worthwhile...or 5 days of crap.
Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:24:00 AM
Jim,
I've seen the schedule. It's 5 days of crap, with lunch provided.
I agree, work with the teachers who need some help, create learning teams and support for these teachers. Don't just kick them to the curb. That being said, the union needs to enter the 21st century when it comes to education and recognize that merit pay might actually be a better option in helping mediocre teachers become better.
Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:02:00 PM
Merit pay sounds good at first...but then I start thinking about who would decide which teachers deserve it, what the criteria would be, etc. I'm afraid it would be just another "cluster f---". I wish I wasn't so skeptical, but...
Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:15:00 PM
so----who is right---who is wrong on this?
"O'Brien said Irons and Johnson have not been in recent contact with her. She noted that Irons said he believes she is behind a letter he received Saturday that told him his employment with the district was terminated.
Tony Sanders, a spokesman for the district, said Superintendent Diana Bourisaw and the board members were not aware the letter had been sent to Irons. He said the letter is authentic, but it merely states that Irons' role in the district's administrative offices had been terminated.
Sanders said Irons is still employed in the district as a teacher. He said Irons is certified to teach at the middle school and high school level, and he would be reassigned to teach in a non-coaching position. Sanders said teachers at the middle school and high school level are being placed this week."
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:26:00 PM
The first day was the usual crock.
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:00:00 PM
My hat goes off to the teachers and parents that are dedicated to the educational well being of our kids.
I have previously posted comments, (negative and positive)in reference to Veronica O'Brien, Creg Williams and Floyd Irons. I continue to hold strong the belief that this was not the right time to replace a superintendent. I will not accept criticism for my vision of Creg Williams bringing positive change to this school system. What else did I have? This school system has been a mess for such a long time.
Pink Panther, I thank you for the compliment, my child has had a difficult time,I am dedicated to his well being and I will see this through. Your encouragement is greatly appreciated.
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:04:00 PM
Social Studies teachers beware: The lay-offs have begun. People were called last night and during lunch at the inservices today to let them know they were "eliminated."
Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:26:00 PM
Anon, do you have specific names and locations for these laid-off SS teachers? (Not that I think your lying, just that it is hard to believe everything you hear.)
Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:40:00 PM
Here is a new wrinkle---I am trying to read between the lines:
News > St. Louis City / County > Story
Irons' firing still up in air, Bourisaw says
08/17/2006 (Post Dispatch article)
Interim St. Louis Schools Superintendent Diana Bourisaw said Tuesday that a letter claiming to terminate the employment of former Vashon High School basketball coach Floyd Irons was not authorized by the district.
When the St. Louis School Board relieved Irons of his duties as basketball coach and districtwide athletic director in July, it retained the right to assign him to teaching, clerical or nonclassroom duties. Instead, the winner of 10 Missouri state high school basketball championships received notification last week that his tenure with the district was over.
Bourisaw said the matter remained under investigation.
I get a feeling that the spokesman I mentioned, Tony Sanders, did not have it quite right----Irons and his attorney would have recognized the difference between a partial and a full termination.
Hopefully, Bourisaw is taking "the buck stops here attitude" and will clarify what is under investigation.
By the way---Isn't Irons a social studies teacher?
Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:25:00 PM
I know teachers that were called today and told they were displaced. They were given a new school and grade to teach.
Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:43:00 PM
Two social studies teachers at Clyde Miller received phone calls last night telling them they were no longer needed.
Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:04:00 PM
It is more than a little disturbing that even Floyd Irons' bosses don't know if he has a job...Open Court tomorrow for elementary teachers. I noticed that no matter how you package Open Court, it still smells the same as when we first got it 1 1/2 years ago. Like crap.
Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:42:00 PM
Brian, Antonio did not give up this site. He said it will resume on the 28th. Antonio thanks for all you do with this site. It is amazing how what is heard here first, usually ends up in the post or on the news. Enjoy your break from SLPS happenings. BUT... please do come back!
Friday, August 18, 2006 5:43:00 PM
St. Louis police said a 21-year-old man who was gunned down on the street
in the 1400 block of Madison Street about 1:45 a.m. Friday appeared to have
been shot about a dozen times.
Timothy Bacon, 21, of the 1400 block of East Obear Avenue, was killed by
three gunmen after leaving his cousin's house on an errand for cigarettes,
police said. As the attackers walked away, one was seen returning to the
victim to fire more shots, police said.
Detectives said they know of no motive and have no suspects.
Bacon was in the news 10 days ago. On Aug. 8, St. Louis School Board
President Veronica O'Brien, who has been at odds with fired Vashon High
School basketball coach Floyd Irons, called for a federal investigation of
whether Irons used excessive force to subdue Bacon, then a student, in a
school confrontation in 2000.
Federal officials said there is nothing to investigate since the statute of
limitations on any charges that might have applied then has run out.
The Missouri Division of Family Services had recommended prosecution of
Irons after its investigation of the incident, saying he struck Bacon about
a half dozen times after Bacon shoved him. But in 2002, a judge
found "insufficient probable cause of abuse or neglect" to proceed with any
prosecution.
CAN YOU SAY COINCIDENCE??? I THINK NOT. BOY DID THAT JUDGE MAKE A MISTAKE. FUNNY, WATCH THE NEWS EVERY DAY HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THIS TIE TO FLOYD IRONS BUT DID HEAR ABOUT HIS COMPLAINTS NOT BEING TREATED FAIRLY OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK, AND WALKS LIKE A DUCK, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS A DUCK.
Saturday, August 19, 2006 12:42:00 AM
Court records show Bacon was cited for resisting arrest last April after violating a restraining order filed by the mother of one of his two children.
I have been critical of Irons and Williams---but they are not the only ones who had bad feelings toward Bacon. It looks like a duck to me----but there is something just a little bit off about the way it waddles.
Man, 21, slain in barrage of shots on city street
By Steve Giegerich
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
08/19/2006
Police are searching for three men who witnesses said fired at least 12 shots at a 21-year-old St. Louis man, killing him after he walked to a service station to buy cigarettes early Friday.
After felling Timothy Bacon with a barrage of 10 shots in the 1400 block of Madison Street, one of the gunmen fired two more shots into Bacon's body, police said.
Bacon, of the 1400 block of East Obear, was the subject of a news article earlier this month citing a state Division of Family Services report stating that he had been struck repeatedly by former Vashon High School basketball coach Floyd Irons six years ago.
School officials said Bacon, a special education student, had failed to follow school policy when he arrived late for classes on Feb. 16, 2000. Bacon suffered a broken nose, a scratched cornea and abrasions, the report said.Advertisement
He was charged with assault for allegedly scuffling with school security officers.
Irons successfully appealed the agency's recommendation that assault charges be filed against him.
In July, the St. Louis School Board removed Irons from his coaching duties and his position as district athletics director.
Bacon complained in an Aug. 8 interview that he still suffered from migraine headaches as a result of the fracas.
Irons' attorney, Jerome Dobson of St. Louis, said his client was "very upset" by the killing. "We deplore this senseless loss of his life and express our deepest sympathy to his family," Dobson said Friday.
Dobson said Irons had no knowledge of a civil suit that St. Louis lawyer Anthony Bruning intended to file on Bacon's behalf next week.
Bruning said the suit would have sought damages from the School Board and Irons, in connection with the alleged assault.
Bacon was killed at 1:45 a.m. His father, Roger Bacon, believes the slaying was an execution.
Timothy Bacon's parents and Bruning acknowledge Bacon had a problem with authority.
Court records show Bacon was cited for resisting arrest last April after violating a restraining order filed by the mother of one of his two children.
Steve Giegerich has been the best reporter on the school issues in my opinion.
Saturday, August 19, 2006 12:56:00 AM
This young man had previously been a special education student in the SLPS. I have to wonder if he was classified as a special ed student
because of an emotional disorder, learning disability or a behavoral problem.
My point is the SLPS does not serve their special ed students to their full capacity. They have a history of placing children in classrooms with other children with behavior problems, instead of serving them. This does not solve the problem. The SLPS does not educate their faculty members about their special ed students. I have experienced this first hand.
I agree Floyd Irons should never have put his hands on this child, however, I do not see this as Floyd Irons failure, I see this as an SLPS failure.
This young man had a restraining order filed against him from the mother of one of his children, this young man was 21 years old. Obviously there were problems with aggression. I am about to ruffle some feathers here. Why was this young man going to get cigarettes at 1:30 am? Why wasn't he at home protecting his children?
Was the decision to file a civil suit against Floyd Irons orchestrated by the recent theatrics of the SLPS? Why is this information surfacing 6 years after the incident occurred?
We need to wait for the facts before we condemn.
Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:18:00 AM
I assume it is just resurfacing because the OLD board(s) chose to do nothing about it. It still might have gone unnoticed had not Floyd and his gang continued to behave in such a similar bullying and violent manner. And now I see posts on here trying to attack and demean the poor boy who lost his life.. is the restraining order against him evidence that he somehow is the one at fault ...and a violent person who brought this upon himself? How shameful to try to come up with "dirt" on him to deflect the obvious IRONS connection.. and there IS one whether directly or indirectly. It seems Veronica had good reason to fear for her safety and the safety of her children from Floyd or his supporters..too bad SHE couldnt get one against HIMbecause of his political clout.I guess this murder will be awarning to others who might have come forward.
Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:47:00 AM
It was not my attention to villify the young man who lost his life. My heart breaks for him and his parents. I am looking at the big picture, others had already posted condemning Irons. I hold the SLPS responsbible, Mr. Irons should have never placed his hands on that child. The fact that he did and has continued to teach and coach is despicable, however, I will not accuse him of being involved in the murder of this young man without evidence.
How is the shooting of this young man any different than all of the other senseless murders, shootings, car jackings, etc? These crimes occur daily in our city, read the newspaper.
I did not stand in favor of the previous board, I voted to remove the 2 incumbents. I do not stand in favor of the current board.
I belive the SLPS failed this child. If Mr. Irons was involved directly or indirectly I will be one of the parents demanding an explanation and full prosecution.
Saturday, August 19, 2006 2:13:00 PM
It is different because of the connection to Irons and the civil suithe was just about to file.
Saturday, August 19, 2006 3:33:00 PM
Steve Giegerich of the PD did a good job of reporting this.
Most of the media has been mum---channel 4 reported it at 5 p.m. Friday as just another murder---not bringing up the possibility of any connection. I called their news department---they were aware that channel 2 did report the possible connection---they did not report the story at all at 6 and 10. Perhaps they were physically afraid to do so.
Saturday, August 19, 2006 5:04:00 PM
irons didnt do it, one of his X ball players did it!
Sunday, August 20, 2006 12:29:00 AM
irons was not aware
Sunday, August 20, 2006 12:30:00 AM
If we are going to go so far as to accuse Irons of this tragedy, then we will also have to accuse the SLPS school board as the civil suit was also to seek damages from the school board(reported in post).
I do believe in the possibility of corruption for personal gain in the SLPS, I will not accuse without evidence.
Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:34:00 AM
Spiro, Steve Giegerich? Are you kidding? Giegerich's writing is so full of biased phrases and editorializing it is embarassing to read. Let's look at his latest "story" in today's Post Disgrace: "the St. Louis Public Schools turned the focus where it belongs Saturday..." (It is NOT a reporter's job to decide where a school district's focus should be, even if 99% of the population agrees.) "the forced resignation of Superintendent Creg Williams after barely a year on the job" (Williams may have been forced out but this has never been established as fact. He himself said he was not forced to leave. Many believe he wanted to leave all along. Also, why "BARELY" a year and not "OVER" a year?) Then he says this parent is "tired of the revolving door" (another negative connotation as if he can read this parent's mind. Why not let the parent's quote speak for itself as a journalist is supposed to do?) Giegerich took over at the same time Williams was coming in and fell into dangerous editorializing from the beginning. His comments and slanted "news" writing are used by the editorial writers to justify their uninformed editorials. Steve Giegerich should go back to school and take "Journalistic Ethics 101" over again, he must have been sleeping in class.
Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:23:00 AM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: Monsieur Heger, comment vous dites en Anglais (How do you say it in English)? Here, here! You tell la verité (the truth.)
Monsieur Giegerich is not a bon reporter. He is an editorialist. This is why the Post-Dispatch is now a Podunk city newspaper. It has no seasoned reporters who report objectively.
Merci, Monsieur Heger for pointing out the obvious. Keep writing and telling it like it is. Inspecteur Clouseau has investigated and learned too many on this blog are très misinformed and lacking sound information. It seems to me there are some propagandists who write who have seldom, if ever, been inside the district or its schools.
But for men like you, "bravo, bravo" for speaking up and out. Did I say that right in American English?
Sunday, August 20, 2006 12:13:00 PM
jim heger---I defer to your closer to the scene knowledge. I have heard it said that democracy is the worst form of government ever invented---except for all the others.
Giegerich might be as bad as you say---but are there others reporting the story?I have seen a few reports, with no follow-up.
One other thing I have been wanting to ask someone---when I was a teacher, we would get really angry when we would read a headline like "schoolteacher does something terrible"-----and nine times out of ten, it turns out to be a substitute teacher---God bless them, there is a difference. I am not going to mention the guy's three names as he flies toward Colorado--I thought about that again this week.
Sunday, August 20, 2006 3:48:00 PM
The previous post reads like gibberish, so----Giegerich seemed to be the only reporter who was following the Irons story very much at all. Is he so bad, that he is worse than nothing?
I have often noticed headlines which talk about a teacher doing bad things, but when you read the story, it turns out that it was a substitute teacher. There is a big difference between a fully qualified, constantly supervised educator and one who is just kind of passing through for a few days.
Sunday, August 20, 2006 6:32:00 PM
I recently discovered this terrific blog and and have been following recent discussions with great interest.
I am a certified teacher looking to teach in the public schools and have been thoroughly frustated at not being able to find out what is going on (the Post has limited coverage and the SLPS web site doesn't have much new info). So I went down to the main offices the other day. I was told that they haven't finished with the reassignments yet, and it will be at least "two to three weeks" before they even start reviewing new applications - and they will be hiring "long after the start of school."
Does anybody have any insight what the kids will be doing while they're waiting for staffing? I've also heard this is not uncommon, even during "regular" years.
I am new to all this and have been thoroughly mystified.
Thanks!
Monday, August 21, 2006 12:27:00 PM
In defense of Steve Giegerich:
How many of you are willing to give your real name, tell us where you work, and give a phone number where we can reach you during the day? He has. Have any of you called him personally to ask why a story or headline was written the way it was? I bet you haven't. Have any of you called to give him tips on what's happening behind the scenes in the district or do you prefer to spread rumor and innuendo on this blog?
It's real easy to look at someone else's job from the outside without having ever done it yourself and then criticize.
-- Cletus
Monday, August 21, 2006 1:59:00 PM
Cletus, your communication might have set the pace if you had used your real name, given your telephone number, and said where you work.
Just a thought.
Monday, August 21, 2006 3:46:00 PM
True, but some people can get fired for commenting on blogs.
-- Cletus
Monday, August 21, 2006 3:50:00 PM
NEWSFLASH...VERONICA O'BRIEN FEARS FOR HER SAFETY. BOARD APPROVES SECURITY AT HER HOME TO THE TUNE OF $20,000. (PER CHANNEL 5 NEWS AT 6PM.
Monday, August 21, 2006 5:15:00 PM
I am a certified teacher as well. I just moved to the area and applied at the first of the month. I have heard nothing. Is it really that common to be hired on so late? I really want to make a difference in a district that needs help but I don't know if I can wait that long. Who will be teaching these kids in the meantime? Subs?!?
Monday, August 21, 2006 5:27:00 PM
Cletus, Steve Giegerich's writing is biased and full of inappropriate editorializing. My name is Jim Heger. I work at Ashland School. Any time you want to discuss this, let me know.
Jim Heger
Monday, August 21, 2006 5:44:00 PM
Teacher wanting to teach in the SLPS. The children will be doing the same thing they are always doing amidst this turmoil and chaos. Not learning, not achieving, being labeled as behavioral problems, while the adults that run our school system are behaving worse than any child I have ever encountered in my 40 years.
With Creg Williams as superintendent I at least had a vision. Today I have nothing.
Monday, August 21, 2006 7:53:00 PM
Pink Panther if you have concrete facts, enlighten us all. Please.
Monday, August 21, 2006 7:57:00 PM
Williams vision??? Are you sure you teach for SLPS. This is the same man who would curse about DESE and do what he wanted reguardless of the law.
I do hope you know Williams did not hold a Superintendents liscense.
He was hired by a Slay backed board. Just mentioning this in case some of you missed that fact. Want proof read the papers before and after he came in and investigate those on the board at the time.
He was the Chief academic officer in Philadelphia and broke the no child left behind law there, same as he did here. He did not go about the reorganization of the schools and new centers in a legal manner. Look up the law and read the whole thing. You will find several problems with the way he does things.
As far as Irons, he taught the boys on his teams a mob mentality. He intimidated teachers and administrators into changing grades. Both by example and during practices gave the kids the feeling that they could get what they wanted with intimidation on and off the court.
Hell no he didn't have to recruit the Vashon alumni association did it for him. Which by the way he is a member of.
Some of you folks just don't get it. There are parallels evident all over the place. Again, if it was Irons boy who was shot down he would be on the TV whining about it. No, he doesn't have to do his own dirty work. He has generations of ex-players some gang members, misguided as they may be to do it for him.
Until, and unless you parents realize that he went about things illegally the same as his good buddy Williams there will be no turn around in SLPS. And who do you suppose will benefit from that, not the kids...our dear mayor.
Think about it there is a method to his madness. Wonder if there was a connection between mayor and judge who refused restraining order.
All of you who called board president crazy, overreacting, etc. Evidently someone now is taking her claims seriously. I personally did from the get go.
The best thing Floyd Irons could do would be to publically state he had no connection to the killing. If someone did it on his behalf they were missguided and that he publically plead that no further violence take place.
But that won't happen because it is the RIGHT thing to do.
Monday, August 21, 2006 9:42:00 PM
To those anons who want to teach in the SLPS...If you truly want to make a difference, you picked the right place. There are several thousand employees out there who you never hear about that are busting their butts every day because they want to make a difference, too. When the doors open to the kids they will be there. Those who bad-mouth your efforts will become inconsequential because you will know the truth. Go for it, what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.
Monday, August 21, 2006 10:39:00 PM
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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:50:00 AM
I heard on a sports station that Floyd Irons has been hospitalized.
No further comment or details. I assume it is stess--not a gunshot wound.
Channel four is sniping at O'Brien---running a poll about the 20,000 dollar expense for a month of security---they did not mention the thing about the murder of Bacon. The comments on the kmov website are unanimously outraged about the money being spent. What a surprise.
Channel five is slightly more balanced.
Hard to find news---the formerly outspoken Kevin Slaten is silent, The PD has been silent for 3 days now.
I think the media is walking on eggshells.
Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:52:00 PM
They are probably walking on eggshells because they fear retribution. Wouldn't you at this point? Mrs. O'Brien must be terrified, and I don't blame her.
Tuesday, August 22, 2006 3:43:00 PM
Anonymous I am not a teacher in the SLPS, I am a parent, I was referring to a teacher in my blog.
I am a parent with 2 horrible years in the SLPS. I had hope in Creg Williams because I had nothing else. I had hope the SLPS would improve, obviously I needed something to hang my hat on. I want a decent education for my child and all of the children that are drowning in the SLPS. The political BS has reached the point owhere I am embarrassed to say I am a city homeowner that sends her child to a city school. I have always stood for bringing the city back, that will never happen. This is ridiculous, and I cannot believe the antics of the educated people involved in all of this.
I cannot believe the length elected officials will go to for their own personal gratification. I include everyone in that statement, Slay, O'Brien, Downs, etc. Grow up and behave like adults, you are an embarrassment to our community. I am fed up!
Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:58:00 PM
Brian,
I'm not certain, but I suspect the (admittedly well-used) adage "What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger." was not originated by
some rapper. I'm way too white to be able to quote rappers anyway... but all of my students can. Your views are wrong and destructive, so it is hard to take you seriously. If you were concerned at one time you have obviously been burned once too often. Not everyone has given up. (but I admit there have been MANY legitimate reasons why many have) Of course the SLPS is f'd up, most of us knew that when we signed on. As far as being strong, if you can get back up after someone tried to kick your ass, then you have won in the sense that you can get up and try again. That is strength. Strength of commitment, perseverence, character, and heart. If you don't have that, you won't make a good teacher or parent. Hey, life's rough. Get over it or get out of it. You are right that there are a lot of screw-ups in the district. You said 85%, I think it might be closer to 40%. (Yeah, I'm feeling optimistic) Either way, I'm tired of the whining. If you don't like the situation either get the hell out and shut up, or speak up and try to improve things. Those who are bitching but taking no action are not only destructive but, even worse, getting BORING.
Sorry I missed whatever wisdom was presented in the two deleted blogs. I'm sure they were very intelligent and well-reasoned comments. Probably more accurate than Giegerich's stuff.
Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:00:00 PM
I was about to ask you why the hostility toward Giegerich.
I am one who believes Irons and Williams were fired for good reason---hiding important information from school board members. I think the loss of the mayors' candidates in the election despite a 7 to 1 spending advantage is a huge reason why Mayor Slay's call for a state takeover seems fishy.
I was about to point out that Giegerich did the job of at least bringing up the Bacon murder and following up the story of Bacon's year 2000 beating by Irons.
I was about to display the new PD reporter's story which carefully omitted the obvious possibility that O'Brien and the board are factoring in that murder in the 20,000 dollar security expenditure they just passed.
Then I saw that Giegerich did not mention anything about the recent murder as he reported the security story. O'Brien is getting clobbered by the press for wanting the security supposedly because of the demonstrations at her house. No mention of the4 possibility that just maybe, just maybe----the Bacon murder might be a factor weighing on some peoples minds. Radio, tv, and now the pd reporters seem like they are scared sheeetless.
Here are the two stories: (please note that Salter saw fit to pump up Irons for his championships---Giegerich saw fit to metion the misspending allegations)
St. Louis School Board president gets armed guard
By Jim Salter
ASSOCIATED PRESS
08/22/2006
ST. LOUIS (AP) -- St. Louis School Board president Veronica O'Brien, claiming she has been the subject of threats since firing a popular basketball coach and accepting the resignation of the district superintendent, is getting 24-hour security, a district spokesman said Tuesday.
At a closed session on Friday, the school board agreed to spend up to $20,000 to fund the security detail for up to a month. District spokesman Tony Sanders said a combination of city police, school district security and a private security firm will provide around-the-clock protection for O'Brien.
O'Brien has been vilified by some since the firing last month of Vashon basketball coach Floyd Irons, who led the team to 10 state titles, including a 58-55 win over Springfield Kickapoo in March. Vashon has won five of the past seven championships in Missouri's largest school class.
Also last month, former superintendent Creg Williams resigned under fire, and some blamed O'Brien for his ouster.
Interim superintendent Diana Bourisaw asked the board to fund security for O'Brien, Sanders said.
"There's been rumors of threats, and in some cases actual threats, and to make sure the board president is protected, she did ask for (security)," Sanders said.
O'Brien does not have a listed telephone number.
Bourisaw does not have a security detail with her, though Williams did, Sanders said.
Earlier this month, O'Brien asked a judge for an order of protection against Irons and businessman Demetrius Johnson. She claimed both men threatened her over the resignation of Williams.
Shortly after Williams resigned, dozens of protesters gathered outside O'Brien's home. O'Brien has said the protest made her fear for her life.
St. Louis School Board President Veronica O'Brien is given bodyguards
By Steve Giegerich
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
08/22/2006
FILE PHOTO: Veronica O'Brien
( David Carson/P-D)
St. Louis School Board President Veronica O'Brien has been assigned 24-hour security protection after she reported threats to herself and her family from former Vashon High School basketball coach Floyd Irons and his supporters.
John Martin, assistant interim superintendent, said the protection detail includes St. Louis police officers and school district security officers, stationed at O'Brien's home.
"It will be in place until she feels more secure and the threats and the rumors of threats stop," said Martin.
The armed guards will accompany O'Brien whenever she leaves her home. Advertisement
During the day, school security officers are being provided to drive O'Brien to district functions, said district spokesman Tony Sanders.
The security team was approved Friday by the St. Louis School Board in a closed meeting.
The board allocated $20,000 for O'Brien's security. Martin said the request came from interim Superintendent Diana Bourisaw.
He does not expect the district to spend the full allocation.
Irons was fired last month by the board for unspecified reasons. An internal audit released last year revealed misspending of Vashon basketball funds during a 33-year tenure that brought 10 state championships to the school.
Since then, Irons and one of his supporters, former pro football player Demetrious Johnson, have staged protests in front of O'Brien's home. They have denied they pose a threat to her
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:02:00 AM
Spiro, Mr. Giegerich got under my skin with some bad reporting from the very beginning and became a pet peeve of mine. I guess I should lay off...(that last one was a cheap shot).
Brian, Most of what you say is true about the Big Picture. I've learned to take small victories and blow them out of proportion. Kinda motivates me to get up in the morning and go to work.
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 5:29:00 AM
If two judges did not feel that Obrien had enough proof that she was seriously being threatened, why should tax payers now pick up the bill to give 24 hour protection from an imagined threat? So now we're paying $20,000 a month out of our childrens education to protect 1 person the legal system found no cause to? By January, that will be at least $80, 000. If it goes the entire year, $180,000 to protect Veronica. I am sure that could go to some teacher salaries, books, tutoring, afterschool programs, etc. Since the longevity of this arrangement is determined by "when she feels safe", we don't know how much we are about to pay.
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:23:00 AM
My mistake on the above comment. I did not notice that it was UP to 20,000 and not 20,000 a month. Still, I question that money being spent after judges determined no need for an order of protection.
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:28:00 AM
here is a story which Shawn Clubb could not get into the PD---
Eight executives follow Williams out the door at public schools
Shawn Clubb
Of the Suburban Journals
South City Journal,Southwest City Journal
07/26/2006
The end of Superintendent Creg Williams' stay in St. Louis also marked the exit of eight other district executives, many of whom he hired.
The St. Louis Public Schools board accepted Williams resignation on July 14. The district has released the names of eight administrators whose employment with the district ended July 17.
They are Beverly LaCoste, chief of staff; Katonja Webb, deputy chief of staff; Nicolas Britto, special assistant to the superintendent; Richard Basden, chief human resources officer; David Kuhn, human resources generalist; Toni Hill, human resources consultant; Gary Hughey, chief operating officer; and Roosevelt Brown, executive director of facilities.
The district has not said whether the employees resigned or were fired. Tony Sanders, a spokesman for the district, said the district does not comment as to the reason when personnel leave employment with the district.Advertisement
However, some school board members, including board vice president Bill Purdy, had criticized Williams for bringing in administrators from outside the area. Hughey was the only one of the eight whose service with the district pre-dated Williams' employment as superintendent.
There was another one which has disapperaed from the archives when Bourisaw replaced 8 administrators with 2----very qualified people---I think I have it stored in Tim McKernan's site somewhere.
then there is this---
The budget for this fiscal year anticipates reducing the district's debt by $3.4 million, but the district still faces serious debt.
I guess if they spend all of the 20,000 dollars to protect the president of the board, then the debt will only be reduced by 3.398 million.
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:07:00 PM
oops---bad math. 3.38 million?
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:11:00 PM
There's no way Floyd was hospitalized.
He was at Vashon HS on Tuesday in the main office (why was he there--other than cleaning out personal belongings which should have happened weeks ago--if he were fired?!). I saw himn as I entered for the drastically LOONGGG PD sessions.
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:04:00 PM
Oh yeah, and my principal today alluded to the fact that the district was going to try to not give us teachers the incremental pay raise that was agreed to upon 2 years ago under Roberti (to avoid an 11th-hour walk out). If we don't get the raise, watch the shit really hit the fan!
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:07:00 PM
If we don't get the raise I hope more of us have the guts to walk the line than two years ago. I kinda figured they would go after (continue to go after) our health insurance to save money. That may be coming as well. Better get a bigger fan!
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:05:00 PM
JIM HEGER, I REALLY, REALLY LIKE YOU. I WOULDNT MIND SHAKING YOUR HAND.
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:28:00 PM
I have a hard time believing the present majority would deny the teachers their raise. Now, if Purdy is unjustly removed, and Slay appoints someone--there will be no surprises. Hire more highly paid consultants and take it out of the pockets of the teachers and staff.
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:01:00 PM
Mom! Stop! You're embarrasing me!
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:14:00 PM
"Mother Heger" replies, LOL!
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:40:00 PM
Philo, exactly. (although stranger things have happened)
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:52:00 PM
what can I do to redeem myself? tonyo, what the deal, I want my sayins to stick, what I gotta do?
Friday, August 25, 2006 12:57:00 AM
Stop making personal attacks. Just make your point and keep it all cordial and peaceful. That's all I ask.
Friday, August 25, 2006 6:58:00 AM
Okay, guys. As I prepare to "go back to school" and start updating this site again (summer vacation is always too short), I plan to post a timeline of events that have happened between August 10 (the date of my last post) and August 28. What should be on the list?
Friday, August 25, 2006 7:02:00 AM
I want to know:
1.What is the status of the Purdy case. Is the judge tied strongly to Shay?
2.What is the status of the murder investigation of Bacon.
3.Why did the media not mention the possible tie of the murder to the next day's action by the board to spend 20,000 dollars to protect O'Brien?
4.How is Floyd Irons' health? Did he fake chest pains, or was that an unfair shot by a detractor?
5. What is the teachers' attitude toward Bourisaw comapred to the attitude toward Williams?
Friday, August 25, 2006 10:34:00 AM
Brian, what you say may be true. At the same time, there is a horrific amount of abuse of teachers and school staff taking place by students.
Especially in middle schools and high schools, some of these kids come from violent and abusive home situations and act the same out on other students, teachers, and staff.
It is a proven fact that one of the most dangerous jobs today is teaching in a middle or jr. high school. Just look at all the shootings and killings taking place in our city involving very young men. Three middle school girls a year or so ago murdered a kind woman who helped them.
I don't condone teachers being physical with students, but I can understand first hand having worked in both a high and middle school how they might feel driven to it for self-preservation.
The beating Timothy Bacon received from Coach Irons was reportedly based on the fact that he shoved the coach. However, I understand the photos are proof that such a beating went far beyond what was required to subdue him.
Perhaps one of the greatest needs in our school district today is for all staff, particularly black men and white men, to firmly affirm student violence will not be tolerated.
The SLPS is dealing with a population that few parochial or private schools can even imagine dealing with.
"No child left behind" needs to address the homes many of these children come from, neglectful, abusive, violent, obscene. It's a challenge and great difficulty to overcome years of what some children experience in the home.
When I worked in a middle school, two African refugee girls were taunted and harassed by African American girls. I was shocked that they of all people would be so ugly to these poor girls who experienced murder and mayhem in their home countries. The girls ended up being transferred to Bunche International Studies for their own safety. My heart ached that they had to experience such prejudice and hatred from those of their own race.
Brian, one has to live and work in these schools to understand just how incredibly challenging and daunting the task of educating children can be. It's a blemish on what we fondly call "democracy" and a "civilized society."
Friday, August 25, 2006 10:35:00 AM
Bill Cosby: Men, Claim Your Children
Comedian Bill Cosby, making an all-day visit to Baltimore on Tuesday, took absentee fathers to task, urged elementary school students to study and suggested unusual methods to prevent teenage pregnancy.
"If you hear a female say, 'I want to have something that loves me,' stop her," Cosby said during a visit to a West Baltimore elementary school. "Stop her quickly. Duct tape her to the closet. This is no time to fool around. You can't dump this (baby) on your mother, you can't dump this on your grandmother."
Cosby was serious most of the time, however, including, at a panel at Heritage United Church of Christ, some harsh words for absentee fathers.
"This is a great evening because we're calling on men to come claim their children," Cosby said. "And that's part of being a man. You cannot be a man at all if you haven't claimed your child.
"Some of you have three, four, five of them. You have more children than you have jobs."
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The event was dubbed "Fatherhood Works" and conducted by Coppin State University, with Coppin President Stanley F. Battle acting as host for Cosby's visit.
"I don't know of any other celebrity that's doing what he's doing," Battle said. "He's reaching back to inspire."
Cosby started the day at Rosemont Elementary. "Those of you that study, you can recruit," he said. "If they can recruit people and get them not to study, you can recruit people to try and study."
Friday, August 25, 2006 11:51:00 AM
Brian, permit me to share the following article with you for your benefit and that of others on this blog.
Children Exhibit Adult Biases
Working in a middle school can be an eye-opening experience. Every day brings a new experience, a new observation. Today was no exception. Our school has two students from the continent of Africa. One girl is from the Ivory Coast and another is from Liberia. Both come from families that are refugees in this country. Perhaps none of us can imagine what brutality, what havoc, or what horrors these young lives might have observed and experienced. News coming out of both countries is disturbing at the least.
However, I was not prepared for what I would see today in an American urban school. Both girls experienced harassment and cruelty from their classmates. Since the girls are from countries in Africa, one might think their tormentors might be from another race. This was not the case. Their tormentors were African American girls. Their teacher said she has never seen so much hatred and cruelty expressed by children towards other children. She said she never saw the girls from two African nations bothering the other students, but the other students constantly picked on the African girls. The African American students say the girl from Liberia curses all the time. Unfortunately, her English is very limited, and she resorts often to her native language, Kranh. Her language could appear as gibberish to other children, but certainly not cursing. I observed her talking back to one of her tormentors in her native language. She referred to the girl from the Ivory Coast as her sister. I asked the one African American girl to sit on the bench, but she refused to because the student from the Ivory Coast was sitting there. Earlier I saw the student from the Ivory Coast crying in the hallway.
I can't say I know exactly what transpired between these students, but I recognized a problem related to the human condition. Prejudice or bias is not restricted to any one particular race. It is related to the human condition and raises its ugly head in the most unpredictable and unforeseen places. Sometimes it crosses racial boundaries; sometimes it does not. Apparently, the African American girls do not relate to the adjective, African. Today was a lesson in human relationships. Those of European and Asian descent already know there are prejudices and biases within their racial groups, based on ethnicity or nationality. These children unknowingly brought home the fact that the same exist among those of African descent.
The sad lesson reiterated and exhibited by some young children in a nondescript urban middle school reminds one of the lyrics from the South Pacific soundtrack, "You've Got to be Carefully Taught." The words are: "To hate and fear, You've got to be taught from year to year. It's got to be drummed in your dear little ear. You've got to be carefully taught. You've got to be taught before it's too late, before you are six or seven or eight-to hate all the people your relatives hate-you've got to be carefully taught." That's what was thought in the 1950s. Many of us latched on to those lyrics and embraced them. Nonetheless, it may be that such prejudices and biases don't have to be taught; they come naturally to children. What needs to be taught instead is that such prejudices and biases are wrong. Just as children have to be taught not to lie but to tell the truth, so they need to be taught to love and not to hate. I doubt their families taught them to be hateful or cruel to these African children.
As in so many areas of life, much of the teaching children receive is preventative: Don't play with fire; you could get burned. Don't run across the street; you could get hit by a car. Don't play with your glass; you could spill your milk. Perhaps this is the approach required to overcome prejudices and biases, an approach that must begin very early in life.
It was heart-wrenching to see the young African refugee girls suffering unnecessary abuse from other children of their own race in a country they fled to for freedom and safety. At the same time, it was a type of wake-up call to remind those of us who are adults involved with children to realize how important it is to teach children the importance of respecting and caring about others of different and diverse backgrounds. Prejudice or bias is not a disease related to any one particular race. It is contagious and infectious, and we are all vulnerable to its invasion, even unsuspecting children.
Let's do everything in our power to protect all children from this ugly, deadly disease. No child deserves to suffer from prejudice or bias.
Helen Louise Herndon
Hloherndon@cs.com
Friday, August 25, 2006 12:00:00 PM
I read the exchanges among Bryan, Helen Louise and anonymous--the sad account of the African girls being subjected to prejudice--the difficulties teachers face every day--and I am not repeating my list to be critical in any way----because their dialog is valuable and will remain so a year from now when some of my concerns have hopefully faded away.
But I am wondering what specific unanswered questions people have which need to be updated by A.D. French. Media coverage is sparse and inadequate. They need to be pressured for answers in specific ways.
spiro removed said...
I want to know:
1.What is the status of the Purdy case. Is the judge tied strongly to Shay?
2.What is the status of the murder investigation of Bacon.
3.Why did the media not mention the possible tie of the murder to the next day's action by the board to spend 20,000 dollars to protect O'Brien?
4.How is Floyd Irons' health? Did he fake chest pains, or was that an unfair shot by a detractor?
5. What is the teachers' attitude toward Bourisaw comapred to the attitude toward Williams?
Friday, August 25, 2006 11:34:05 AM
Friday, August 25, 2006 2:57:00 PM
Antonio D. French said...
Okay, guys. As I prepare to "go back to school" and start updating this site again (summer vacation is always too short), I plan to post a timeline of events that have happened between August 10 (the date of my last post) and August 28. What should be on the list?
Well, Bryan, I did not know number 1. or number 2. as to number 3., not reporting what is happening is not gray---it is more along the lines of blackout.4. Irons was hospitalized?---is he now ok? Was anything in the media about it other than what appeared here and on kfns?Burwell offered no follow-up.
5.I have a positive impression of Bourisaw---because of what I perceive to be a less than obvious, but necessary streak of ruthlessness. She is going to have to deal with some major a's.
It must be nice to know all the answers, and therefore have no questions of your own.
I knew I was repeating them--I pasted--and misspelled Slay twice.
Friday, August 25, 2006 3:50:00 PM
Brian, Slay does not appoint judges in the city. A panel goes through all those who apply when there is a judicial vacancy, and narrows it down to three. Those three are then interviewed by the Governor and the Governor makes the selection. This is called the non-partisan court plan, and is used in St. Louis City and County and Kansas City for the very purpose of trying to reduce the politicizing of the judiciary. As can be seen in other areas of Missouri, and most definitely in Madison County IL, having judge candidates declare political parties and run for election, with the fundraising and favor-repayment that implies, lends itself readily to corruption. The non-partisan court plan hopefully takes that out of the picture. Nowhere are circuit judges appointed by a mayor.
Slay could not "get rid of a judge at anytime." Judges are retained by voters who vote yes/no (since it's not a contested race in the City, as explained above). Yes to retain, no not to. I suppose you could argue that Slay, or any politician, could try to get the word out to vote no on a judge, but really, try to find the last time one wasn't retained in St. Louis City. They always do.
Friday, August 25, 2006 8:06:00 PM
Brian, the problems are much more complex and deep-rooted than the schools. The schools are the second or third stop after the home and the community, where most of the problems are created and nourished.
Please read Bob Herbert's editorial article in today's Post-Dispatch entitled, "Enough is Enough." He is a New York Times columnist.
If the county, private and parochial schools had to deal with the problems the city schools encounter, they would be in much worse shape. They are able to be much more selective.
There is enough blame to go around, but the largest share of the blame isn't going where it belongs: the homes and communities out of which these children come.
Unfortunately, I dread saying what I am about to say but it must be said: the black community and leaders have neglected and allowed serious moral and ethical problems to fester and grow that have harmed generations of children.
The onus is on the homes and community to change things around so that children can and want to learn. Scapegoats are not needed; the truth and reality are needed to change the status quo.
Saturday, August 26, 2006 10:08:00 AM
Thank you, Helen.. those of us who have dedicated our lives to helping and teaching students in the slps...know how true your statements are. The TRUTH is often overlooked as everyone wants to blame the teachers
Saturday, August 26, 2006 8:36:00 PM
If Mayor Slay is so concerned about the children, why not do the same thing this first day of school he did last year.
This article came from Mayor Slay's blog:
Mayor Offers Paid School Leave
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, August 08, 2005
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Mayor Francis Slay has sent the following letter to City employees:
. . . The start of another school year is both exciting and stressful. Getting off on the right foot can set a positive tone for the entire year. Unfortunately, too many of our public school children are not going to school on the first day.
I encourage all City employees who are parents or guardians of a St. Louis Public Schools student to take their children to school on the first day.
The first day of class for the St. Louis Pubic Schools is Monday, August 22. Parents of public school children will be given up to two hours of paid leave on the morning of August 22.
Take an hour or so to help your children find their classrooms and meet their teachers.
Take this opportunity to introduce yourself to the teachers and to the principal.
Exchange phone numbers so that the school can get in touch with you — and so that you can keep informed of on your child’s progress.
So that your co-workers can to continue to serve the citizens of St. Louis effectively that morning, you should inform your supervisor in writing no later than August 15 that you will be absent-with-pay for two hours on August 22.
High-quality schools are a necessary part of a great city — and a great city is the ultimate goal of every City employee.
Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:19:00 AM
Good God, I have to say something. I can't stand to let Mayor Slay have the last word. So Antonio, I know this is late but how about some news on:
1. the state of the schools on the first day (cleanliness, availability of supplies, number of certified teachers in the classrooms, class sizes, etc.)
2. I won't bother with any more...this should keep you busy for awhile.
Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:06:00 AM
Education departments get some blame for poor student achievement due to some of the wacky educational theories. Whole language really hurt a lot of students. The human brain is incapable of memorizing the spellings of all the words in English without a system to categorize them.
Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:41:00 AM
Naval Academy Principal has quit, no replacement officially named, but hear that the assistant will be named and is highly qualified.
Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:03:00 PM
Let me get this straight, Brian. If 90% of the people are doing something wrong, it isn't wrong? WWJD, my dear?
Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:28:00 PM
Thanks for all of your comments. STLSchools.org is back online.
Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:49:00 PM
I wish that I would of been informed by the district that EC and ECSE students begin on September 5th and not today! The only way I found out was by talking to the school secretary on an unrelated issue. NOT one letter or phone call from the district stated this fact.
Monday, August 28, 2006 10:01:00 AM
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