By Antonio D. French
Filed Friday, July 28 at 11:47 AM
School Board President Veronica O'Brien said she and her son were threatened and intimidated by car loads of supporters of ousted Vashon basketball coach Floyd Irons.
"I came home with my 11 year-old on the backseat when I approached my driveway and saw about 10 cars with loads of people," she wrote in an e-mail to a supporter. "As I proceeded to turn into my driveway several of the cars U-turned into the rear of my car. My son, Taylor said 'Mommy, oh no!" and as I looked up these fools had jumped on both sides of my car."
She said they yelled and told her "what they were going to do to me." She said she sat with her son in the car with the doors locked while she called her brother then the police.
"I called 911 as my son and I sat in the car for about 12 minutes before the police came. For the second time the police would not write a report. I pleaded for help so I could get a restraining order. They would not do so," wrote O'Brien.
She said her husband and daughter were out of town and she was fearful for her son's safety.
"This is not a peaceful protest, but it is something that has risen to a higher level. I feel harm is imminent," wrote O'Brien.
"How do I get help to protect my family if the police won't."
79 Comments:
Oh No...someone threatened Veronica O'Brien. If I felt this threatned and my child was with me, why would you call your brother then the police? I saw the footage on the news last night and Veronica O'Crazy has a long driveway put she never pulled in or out but stayed close to the (what seemed peaceful protesters). This woman is crazy!!!
Friday, July 28, 2006 12:04:00 PM
Because her brother is/was with the law. Most people would call a family member anyway.
Anonymous, were you there? How can one see or know everything from one clipping of television?
Sounds to me like a crazy from the mayor's office.
Friday, July 28, 2006 12:27:00 PM
Previously, I have voiced my opinion that it is improper to protest at a private residence, and that protests should be held at the Board, rather than at members' homes. I stand by those remarks. But this has gone too far.
The protestors are now engaging in illegal behavior. These are the same sorts that cannot behave with proper decorum at School Board meetings, but rather choose to yell and demonstrate their poor manners.
Peaceful protest is far different from terrorizing a family. This is not the St. Louis that we saw during the recouperation after the recent storms, where friends, family, neighbors and strangers banded together to help one another through the tough and hot times.
Regardless of what your positions might be, there is a right and legal method for voicing them; this isn't it. I urge the sensible members of these protest groups to reign in your over-the-top bretheren, and to take the protests to appropriate locations, such as the Board of Education building downtown.
Friday, July 28, 2006 12:34:00 PM
It just illustrates the type of person that supports Irons. Intimidation has always been his greatest strength, so the students he mentored learned it from the master. Yes, that's definitely what a parent wants role-modeled in schools, don't you think?
Friday, July 28, 2006 12:35:00 PM
If Irons is a bully and the new board knows it, why did they let him keep on teaching?
Friday, July 28, 2006 12:42:00 PM
I don't trust one thing that comes out of Veronica O'Brien's mouth. That woman (not the word I want to use) is C-R-A-Z-Y. Just ask her boyfriend...not husband but her boyfriend
Friday, July 28, 2006 12:43:00 PM
Stop beating up on Veronica...she just may be delusional since it doesn’t seem she has a good meal in months. I can’t wait until her term is up so she go back to being a nobody and we won’t have to hear her lies anymore. If those folks were doing all of that…trust me the police would have taken a report…they have taken her crazy reports before. And why didn’t the news media show that…oh yeah I forgot because Mayor Slay told everyone to do this. FIND A HOBBY VERONICA AND FOCUS ON THE SLPS…AND THE MESS YOU CAUSED
Friday, July 28, 2006 12:50:00 PM
Jesus fucking christ.
I was coming home from the Smith movie on Lindell and there was 2 cop cars on the street. They were simply standing there, and I figured something with Veronica occured.
My lord, people need to stop acting crazy.
Friday, July 28, 2006 1:06:00 PM
And, Doug, you also need to change your language to common, decent English.
And isn't it a lark to try to slander someone's reputation last anonymous?
It was hoped that blogs would give other avenues of expression, but some of these indicate the crazies on invading the blogs.
Friday, July 28, 2006 1:30:00 PM
Can you reprint her original note in its entirety?
From what I've heard, she sent this note to many folks, including Charlie Brennan on KMOX, who read it over the air this morning. CB attempted to call her, but she refused, per his producer, because CB is too biased against her.
Was curious, did she also send it to Chief Mokwa?
Friday, July 28, 2006 1:41:00 PM
I don't need to change my language.
If I were in her position, I would not be prim and proper.
This is horrible, and it makes St. Louis look very bad.
Who would want to move here, when mobs attack public officials?
If you don't like a policy, then be civilized and voice your concern at the school board meetings. If that does not work, take other action, but don't do this!
Friday, July 28, 2006 1:50:00 PM
To those with a better memory than I: Back in spring 05, didn't poor Veronica feel threatened by mean Vince over campaign signs being ripped up? I think she also claimed she was being intimidated by city leaders and the police/police chief wouldn't do anything about that either.
Friday, July 28, 2006 2:11:00 PM
Civility, I believe also extends to your choice of language. Regardless of how, improper or horrible this situation is, or how strongly you may feel, the fact remains that there are children, students, that view this site. If you want someone to take your opinions seriously, you must tone down your choice of words. I've always told my children that ignorance breeds this type of behavior and language. If you do not want to appear ignorant, choose your words and your actions carefully.
Friday, July 28, 2006 2:12:00 PM
You know, regardless of the fact of how anyone may feel personally about Veronica, that does not make it right to terrorize her home and her family. I mean really people, put yourself in her childrens place and imagine what they are thinking and feeling. Or are you people to consumed with your own feelings to do that? How would you feel if other people made YOUR kids feel that way.
Friday, July 28, 2006 2:26:00 PM
My wife taught in the SLPS for three years at the old Roosevelt 9th Grade Center. The quickest way to a job in the burbs is to do a couple years of hard time in the city. She had three job offers in two months, and was able to take the position of her choice. The city schools are a joke, and teachers are burning out and leaving left and right because of poor management. Ask any pricipal in the district what they were told about sending students home when the building engineers had their walkout a couple of years ago. The administration does not care about the safety or the quaulity of education when it comes to the students. It's all about the same old racially charged bullcrap that has been going on forever.
Friday, July 28, 2006 2:31:00 PM
Following is a quote from an African American teacher: "Why, I have a family member that worked at Vashon and forced to leave due to his 'changing of grades' to accommodate the basketball team. I will not disclose her name for fear of retaliation. I also don't want my name revealed, I need my job but, I'm tired of this "B.S.' This is not about the children as they say.
Mr. Irons couldn't be thinking about the children. If he was then he would not be initiating others to do his dirty work. When will it end.
Does Mr. Irons or the people he has 'working' for him understand the children are watching and that they will take this type of action into the schools? Do they realize that what they are doing will cause more "inappropriate behaviors" in the school system? WHAT TYPE OF LEADERS ARE THEY????? In my opinion, they are thugs and 'GANG BANGERS.' They are appearing to be worse than the 'real' gangs on the street. The only different is that they are suppose to be the 'PROFESSIONAL EDUCATIONAL LEADERS' for our children to follow. I DON'T THINK SO!!!"
Friday, July 28, 2006 2:38:00 PM
Why we are giving so much time to Veronica O'Brien...that is what she wants...see even I have fallen into her trap. Is it true that Veronica O'Brien and Rochelle Moore are sisters...if not they sure act alike...CRAZY!
Friday, July 28, 2006 2:40:00 PM
O'Brien is the "GANG BANGER" she told the protesters that they she was going to shoot them last, then told her son to stay there while she went into her house carrying something behind her back. This lady is realy piece of work but hey you folks in the city picked her so you get what you vote for
Friday, July 28, 2006 2:43:00 PM
"I've always told my children that ignorance breeds this type of behavior and language."
If you are able to read about the corruption on PubDef and this website without using profanity, then you have a problem.
Using responses like the "F - - - word" express my loathing of this situation.
Oh and by the way, your children use that word more than I do.
We need to unite all the various factions together, and come up with a unified plan for the SLPS. Easier said that done. Hopefully with the possible State take over, our new Super and Board will get things done. I also believe we need to incorporate turning schools back into community anchors as well. This can be done with after school and summer programs, ran by volunteering Education Majors.
Friday, July 28, 2006 2:51:00 PM
Excuse me, you don't know my children. But I do, and I can tell you they find better ways of expressing themselves than you did.
You need to use your education to find different words to express your "loathing". Be responsible, isn't that what your asking our administrators, parents and community to be?
And although I may get completely exasperated at the "corruption" on this site, I keep that language to myself.
Friday, July 28, 2006 3:09:00 PM
The two last anonymous comments are spurious, if not outright lies.
Doug, the children use such terms because they hear adults using them.
Rethink the legacy you want to leave your own children.
Following is the Post-Dispatch's editorial of December 2005:
"The St. Louis School Board and Superintendent Creg William didn't even give Floyd Irons a slap on the wrist for the financial irregularities at Vashon High School. Instead, they cleared Mr. Irons, apologized to him for the bad publicity and gave the erroneous impression that prosecutors had exonerated him.
It was a stunning example of the lack of public accountability.
Mr. Williams, who said last month that he could probably find similar irregularities at almost any city high school, announced on Tuesday that the Irons matter was closed. Instead of disciplining Mr. Irons, a popular basketball coach, the superintendent announced a 15-step plan to tighten controls on the handling of money in the schools.
The action followed two audits that had pointed the finger of guilt at Mr. Irons. The audits found that major purchases at Vashon had not been properly requested or approved, including a $50,000 gym scoreboard, a $5,900 gym floor and about $100,000 in uniforms. Financial records had not been turned in for the 2003-4 school year, during which time Mr. Irons was acting principal. Ticket sales for some basketball games couldn't be accounted for. Mr. Irons had a contract with Nike to provide uniforms and equipment to the boys' basketball team, even though school funds were used to make similar purchases.
Post-Dispatch stories on the Vashon irregularities were based on copies of draft audits. If the final audit has more complete information that exonerates Mr. Irons, then the board should make it public. Meanwhile, the School Board has left a mistaken impression that Mr. Irons has been exonerated by St. Louis Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce. Jeannette Graviss, Ms. Joyce's chief warrant officer, said in a telephone interview on Wednesday that "the bookkeeping was so sloppy that there would be no way to determine if there was criminal behavior.... It is an exaggeration to say that the review exonerated anyone," she added. "That is completely false." Ms. Graviss said she had reviewed an audit, but hadn't looked at any documents, such as checking accounts, balance sheets or receipts. Nor had she talked to Mr. Irons or to retired Athletic Director James Ford, who could not be found to answer questions about the district audits. She acknowledged that a fuller investigation that touched these bases might have found criminal wrongdoing, but still thought that the records mess would make prosecution difficult.
Mr. Irons is a great basketball coach with political clout. Getting to the bottom of the financial irregularities at Vashon would have taken a lot of gumption and willingness to take the heat from angry Irons supporters. This board and this superintendent have demonstrated they don't have it."
Now, didn't Mrs. O'Brien and the rest of the board do what the Post-Dispatch asked for in December?
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Friday, July 28, 2006 3:17:00 PM
First of all, when I have children, I will teach them when it is appropriate to use profane language.
When a public official is accosted by an angry prodigious mob, then "fuck" will be allowed in my household.
If you do not like profane language, then please stay away from the Jeff Smith Film.
He, and his entire staff, must be ex-Navy bosons because they swear every 2.5 seconds. When Jeff got out the bottle of Tullamore Dew, and called Russ a mommas boy, then film really got interesting.
Finally, please do not dictate your terms of proper social interaction, or your morals. The word fuck is perfectly acceptable as a form of expression, especially political speech. You will find the Supreme Court is on my side.
Friday, July 28, 2006 4:06:00 PM
Doug, disagree totally. Jeff Smith is not the standard for anyhting.
This blog is about children from K-12. Obscene language that is also sacrirelgious doesn't belong here.
Pleaase just speak straightforward to the issues.
Friday, July 28, 2006 4:37:00 PM
How is my language attacking religion?
I would love to hear this one.
One of my favorite moments in current political events is when Bush said shit at the G8 meeting, regarding Hezzbollah.
What we need is down-to-earth no bullshit leaders that might use profane language. The common American uses profane language every day, and I believe there is nothing wrong expressing yourself in a non-scripted manner. Granted our leaders should have the intelligence to use other words.
Lets not forget the infamous F-Bomb dropped by Dick Cheney. All of these individuals are probably very religious, especially since Bush claims to have bedtime dialouge with god.
How about we focus on the unwarranted attack on Mrs. O'Brien instead of my recent affront to religion and moral decency.
Friday, July 28, 2006 5:03:00 PM
Doug, you're right. We should be focusing on Veronica O'Brien's trials. But your language is associated with God and Jesus Christ. Therefore, you do bring religion into it.
Please, leave the language behind and deal with substance and issues.
Friday, July 28, 2006 5:22:00 PM
How is O'Brien wanting a restraining order against her constituants? Sound CRAZY to me. Maybe it's time for for Veronica to step down as president. The question regarding her kids going to Clayton schools still remains unanswered. She needs get her kids in SLPS where "Mommy" is causing all of the chaos. Purdy needs to sit the hell down also. Let someone else sit on the board, you had you're chance. By the way... I did vote, and it wasn't for this sorry ass board.
Friday, July 28, 2006 6:00:00 PM
Shaun, stupid entry. Her children are involved in the Interdistrict Voluntary Desegregation Program that thousands of African American families are involved in as well as many white families in the county.
City black students go to county school districts, and white students from the county go to city magnet schools.
Flint Fowler's children went to John Burroughs. Are you opposed? Schoemehl's and Slay's children went to Catholic schools. Archibald's went to county school districts.
So what's the problem? Are you just against a woman or a black woman?
Friday, July 28, 2006 6:15:00 PM
I share Doug's obvious frustration with the terrorism being inflicted upon the School Board members and their families. Further, I stand by Doug in his call for unity in this time of heated tempers.
We now are faced with the great opportunity to bring together our City for the betterment of our children through the public schools. Let history judge us worthy of this last chance by conducting ourselves to the common goal of educating our children by moving beyond the politics, moving beyond pettiness, moving on to a brighter future.
What has been done is in the past, and dwelling on the past does not address the future. Right now we must focus on the tasks at hand--opening the schools on-time, returning the district to solvency, and providing our children with a world-class education second to none.
If our common goal is truly to provide the best education possible to our children, as both sides to this conflict say it is, then now is the time to lay down our arms of words, to pick-up the ploughs of education, and to work together not apart.
I call on all parties to cease the barbs, cease the protests, cease the ill-mannered behavior. I call on all parties to let their voices be heard at the Board meetings, through this and other online portals, and through positive outlets. I call on all parties to lay out constructive plans for achieving the aforementioned objectives and conduct constructive conversations about those plans.
Friday, July 28, 2006 8:58:00 PM
Philo-Teknos, are you a racist? I don't see any color in education right now. I care that her children go to the Clayton School District, but I also want her children to experience what our children are with her being president of the St. Louis Board of Education. Her children have consistency, ours don't. Stop making everything in SLPS so personal, that's why our children are missing out now. But I still wouldn't mind if she had nothing to do with the St. Louis Public Schools.
Flowers', Schoemehl's and Slay's kids went to religious schools, not public jackass!
Friday, July 28, 2006 9:44:00 PM
To the 10:44 blogger, private or religious, they made a choice not to send them to SLPS. That says a lot!!
Travis your comment was well stated. Thank you.
Friday, July 28, 2006 11:35:00 PM
It has probably been a long time if ever that Iron's didn't get his way. Now I guess I see why.
Saturday, July 29, 2006 12:14:00 AM
The slanted, sensationalizing reporting by the Post Dispatch and the St. Louis American, along with the meddling of the Mayor has incited so much anger that I'm hoping no one gets hurt. The mob is out of control. Veronica O'Brien is serving on the school board as a civic duty. Her privacy at her home should not be invaded. But apparently, the mob mentality is prevailing. Remember, mobs always react like herd. That's why we make decisions in a demoncratic forum and why we disagree in a democratic forum, not outside someone's house.
Now if only the Post Dispatch and the St. Louis American would stop the agitating and inciting mass anger and engage in some type of ethical journalism, the atmosphere would improve.
Floyd Irons used the same type of mob mentality several years ago when he took his mob and tried to intimidate Lizz Brown. Remember when she disagreed about holding school in buildings in which there was no running water,and he and the Clinkscale board majority urged the students to come to school anyway at the opening of the school year? I believe that was 3? years ago. Please also note that that both Lizz Brown and Veronica O'Brien are (Black women}. I don't believe he would lead this mob to a white woman or man's home.
He should be fired for inciting and participating in this mob behavior and for behavior unbecoming "a professional?" He is engaging in "bully behavior" because they closed his department. They really did not fire him, but they should have.
Then there are those financial irregularities cited in one of the posts on this page and quoted from the Post Dispatch.
I keep seeing Veronica OBrien being called "crazy," but Floyd Irons really seems crazy in his pattern of disorderly behavior and obsession to get his job back. This man has been employed by the SLPS for 33 years, that means he can retire. So, why doesn't he? Mobs should not be trying to get his job back, but should be screaming and yelling about the inadequate conditions that have been thrust on the SLPS children.
A concerned teacher
Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:14:00 AM
I find it ironic that the only news item that has generated substantial comments on this schools watch page recently focuses on the circus element of the school board antics. If we really cared "about the kids" the debate would be on the state-commissioned commmittee. Confirms my thoughts that all people really care about is the fight.
Saturday, July 29, 2006 6:57:00 AM
I think there is no debate regarding the shadow committee recently established by the state Board of Education because the panel is merely has an advisory role. There is no issue to stand on either side of until they issue some opinions. While I am against a state take-over, even I do not mind an advisory panel. More voices at the table are always welcome. So there just isn't anything to debate regarding the panel. Finally, the fact that no one has found minutia regarding the panel to harp on is a good sign that we can all work together in the interest of the children.
Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:19:00 AM
I think this shows all the qualifications of why Floyd Irons should continue to be a teacher/coach in this school district. He shows imitative, resourcefulness, and community involvement. All the qualifications the SLPS wants in its teachers and administrators.
Now if you want this kind of teacher in your child’s classroom I have a bridge over the River Des Peres to sell.
I do not agree with the picketing out side a place of residence despite what the office is but I do support the peoples right to assemble. If this does continue the Irons crew needs to be reminded of the teachings of Dr. Martin Luther King for peaceful demonstrations. I do not recall any police being called to Archbishop Burke’s residence during the teachers’ protests.
To Anon on July 29 at 7:57 am. This is the same mentality I see in the classroom and hallways as well (not at Vashon). For some reason life is about revenge. Even though this happens with all of the races it is more visible with the black students (during the past school year black girls). There are so many positive black role models that show a more peaceful means of resolving problems but these black students much rather use the gangster tactics. Part of this is biological in the adolescence development of their own individuality while the other part is how they see their parents (teachers and coaches as well) handle various problems.
Saturday, July 29, 2006 10:02:00 AM
Travis, that was a good response and makes a lot of sense.
Saturday, July 29, 2006 12:18:00 PM
changed my last name from agneut to removed.
I read a short article in today's PD---a circuit judge denied a request from O'Brien for a restraining order---she gets another shot at it on August 10th.
My question---is this the same judge who will be ruling on the Suit to remove Purdy?
Saturday, July 29, 2006 2:36:00 PM
One has to wonder which judge dismissed Mrs. O'Brien's two petitions. I would think his or her name would be germane to the report.
Remember when Vince Schoemehl referred to certain crowds as "Nazis?" Yet here there is muted silence on the part of some leaders and facile dismissal on the part of a judge. Makes one wonder if we live in a society of order anymore? Filthy language and threatening behavior seem to be acceptable to so many.
Back on December 8, 2005, the Post-Dispatch editorial contained this sentence: " Getting to the bottom of the financial irregularities at Vashon would have taken a lot of gumption and willingness to take the heat from angry Irons supporters." Wow! Was that ever prophetic.
If Mrs. O'Brien was described by one reporter as "a cutthroat politician enamored with power," how should Floyd Irons and Demetrius Johnson be described? Send your suggestions to the Post-Dispatch.
Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:43:00 PM
Is the rumor that Mokwa is a relative of Francis slay true?
Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:31:00 PM
Judge Stephen Ohmer is the judge for the Purdy case---2.p.m. Monday?
He shows up in a search mostly for backing former governor holden on the concealed carry law.
I think he will throw the case out against Purdy---I would bet he is not the judge who denied O'Brien the restraining orders.
I do not understand how the Post could run a story about the denial of the R Order and not say who the circuit judge was.
Sunday, July 30, 2006 1:04:00 AM
If she filed for an Order of Protection, the request goes to Judge Stelzer, although Commissioner Anne-Marie Clark (a black woman, for those who think this matters) often reviews the requests first to determine whether to issue an order prior the hearing on the Petition.
Never mind this comment if she filed a "restraining order", that is different than an Order of Protection.
Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:13:00 PM
Anna Marie Clark did grant her a restraining order. Then something went on behind the scenes and another judge rescinded it. A judge who was at festivities with Slay that day came to meet with her and her attorney and was perturbed to be called away from the festivities. That's when it got uglier and the female judge showed no concern for her children.
Others have also said Police Chief Mokwa is related in some way to Slay through marriage or some other way.
Police officers said they checked with her next door neighbors and they heard nothing. The one house is empty and the other neighbors are out of town. Interesting, isn't it?!
Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:56:00 PM
I was there the night of the protest and I can tell you that Ms. O'Brien was never in harms way and no one came closs to her or her son. There was one point that Ms. O'Brien threatened us, then left to go into the house (while she told her 11 year old son to stay outside) and she came back outside carrying a weapon behing her back. The protest (like the one 2 weeks prior) was peaceful. No one there broke the law. If she really felt like her life was in danger do you really think she would have left her son outside (just 10 feet from the protesters) while she went into her home which is 100+ feet away. Veronica O'Brien is showing her true colors and everyone should question her judgement. If I really felt threatened I would have filed suit against more people (not just Floyd Irons and Demetrious Johnson). Although I don't agree with anything Ms O'Brien has done in the past few months I won't attack her but I only want to state the facts. Your opinion is just that your opinion but if you weren't there please don't lie about what happened...like Ms. O'Brien has done. This is a sad situation that our children are in and it din't start with Veronica or Mayor Slay. I question Bill Purdy more that anyone who has served almost 15 years on the board and with that kind of time...and no positive outcome I wonder why is still on the board.
Monday, July 31, 2006 10:20:00 AM
The lawsuit to remove Purdy will not have its hearing today at 2 PM.
Postponed until late August.
Monday, July 31, 2006 11:34:00 AM
Anonymous (July 31 at 11:20), it was seen on television and few would say it was peaceful. Many said how ugly it was, and those of us at the last board meeting can verify how ugly you and your group were. Sorry, but you're not to be believed.
Besides, most people know what a bully Floyd Irons is.
Monday, July 31, 2006 1:21:00 PM
Inspector Clouseau here: Anonymous who said you were at the protest and that it was peaceful. Mon Dieu! Monsieur, surely you kid us. C'est mon opinion that Burger King is not the only one to produce "whoppers" en St. Louiee. Evidement, monsieur anonymous qui protest beaucoup chez Madame O'Brien, you are good at whoppers too! En France and en le Belgique, we call people like you les grands menteurs. So instead of being "anonymous." now, you can call yourself le grand menteur, a title well earned, mon ami.
Monday, July 31, 2006 2:03:00 PM
Why we haven't we heard from Veronica O'Brien on the blog lately
Monday, July 31, 2006 2:06:00 PM
Veronica O'Brien was interviewed by Kevin Slaten on kfns today. (all-sports)
Apparently the conservative Slaten is someone she trusts more than Charles Brennan.
Wonder if Charlie Tuna was listening.
Monday, July 31, 2006 4:06:00 PM
I feel proud that she showed courage when a pack of dogs came at her. She stayed strong and showed the courage a black woman needs to show for her child.
The dogs will finally get over their rabid behavior one way or another.
One of the dogs needs to stay in Parkway and take care of his child's problems, but no one cares about that mongrel. His last "yelps" were overlooked.
Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:15:00 PM
This was in the suburban journal--but not the PD.
Suburban Journals > Missouri Story
School board president seeks order of protection
Shawn Clubb
Of the Suburban Journals
South City Journal,Southwest City Journal
08/02/2006
The president of the St. Louis Public Schools school board has petitioned for an order of protection against former Vashon basketball coach Floyd Irons and radio sports personality Demetrius Johnson.
Irons and Johnson have been among the people who have protested twice outside the Central West End home of Board President Veronica O'Brien. Their protests follow the school board's decision to end Irons' position as coach and the district's director of health, physical education and sports administration and the resignation of Superintendent Creg Williams.
O'Brien has petitioned the city circuit court to issue orders of protection for her and her 11-year-old son and 14-year-old daughter. She alleges Irons and Johnson have stalked, threatened and harassed her. She said Johnson has harassed her since December when a report was published which suggested improper use of funds at Vashon by Irons and Johnson.
In a statement accompanying her petition, O'Brien alleged Johnson called her and told her to back off the investigation. She said he used abusive language. She said Johnson has repeatedly gone on the radio and said he would go after her and take her down.Advertisement
O'Brien alleged both men have appeared twice outside her home with a group of demonstrators. She said they have screamed obscenities. She said the two men waited in a car outside the school board office on the evening the board accepted Williams' resignation. She alleged they drove their car toward her when she stepped into the street and she had to jump back to keep from being struck.
O'Brien told the Journals the first group that came to her house came onto her porch and knocked over political signs. She said on the second occasion a car pulled in behind her car and blocked her driveway as people yelled at her and her son.
"By now I am in constant and daily fear that these two individuals by some means will hurt me maybe kill me," she wrote in the petition.
"It's just got to stop. It was out of line. I thought they had understood this wasn't appropriate behavior," O'Brien said during an interview with the Journals. "It's a horrible thing to sit there with your child on the backseat of the car and this was happening."
O'Brien said if these people want to know why the board made decision, they should address the board. She said Irons and Johnson have not addressed the board with any correspondence during regular hours.
Jay Burns, O'Brien's attorney in the case, said the case is not about free speech, but about conduct.
"Veronica O'Brien is not trying to silence the mouths and words of these people. She doesn't want them on her property at night. She doesn't want them following her," Burns said.
O'Brien filed the initial petition on her own Friday. Judicial Commissioner Anne-Marie Clarke granted the order. However, Associate Circuit Judge Barbara Peebles then denied it, saying the court didn't have jurisdiction.
O'Brien then filed with Burns as her attorney. Associate Circuit Judge James Van Amburg then denied that petition, saying her description wasn't stalking. Van Amburg set a hearing on the matter for 9:30 a.m. Aug. 10.
In another civil case concerning school board members, a hearing on whether board Vice President Bill Purdy should remain on the board has been postponed until 9 a.m. Aug. 21. Purdy requested the continuance because he is on vacation in Europe.
School board member Ron Jackson, Vashon basketball coach Floyd Irons and others have petitioned the courts to remove Purdy from the board, saying his election to the board violates board bylaws.
School board member Flint Fowler has withdrawn as petitioner. Attorney Jerome Dobson would not comment on why Fowler withdrew. Fowler did not return a call from the Journals.
The lawsuit states that the board's bylaws prohibit close relatives of district employees from running for the school board. It further states that Purdy has one or more children who are employed as teachers by the district.
The lawsuit asks that Purdy be removed and the court prohibit the school board from eliminating the Department of Health, Physical Education and Sports Administration.
Friday, August 04, 2006 2:01:00 PM
Lets stop faking the funk with each other. Any sane person can see what is happening and for some "UNKOWN" reason...no one has said the word. Its "RACISM"..."RACISM"...don't be scared to say it! I'm tired of being politically correct. O'Brian is just a pawn...thats all! There is a take over of the St. Louis City that is happening all around and when its done...it does not include African-Americans...PERIOD! For one, the SLPS is a problem for the real estate. Those overly priced lofts, etc have to sale! And when the school district is poor and/or too BLACK thats not a good thing. White people want their city back. They want the access to the Dome, Cardianals Stadium, Theaters, etc. WAKE UP! Travis Reems,Doug Duckworth and Peter Downs know whats happening! Just ask them. They love the fact that Blacks are going against each other. It takes the attention off whats really happening. Floyd Irons and Creg Williams were a problem! Floyd kept attention on a school that the powers that be were and still are trying to get control over. VASHON! A black man. A school that out of all the SLPS has had a legacy of strong, powerful ALUMNI, inspite of the problems and changes in schools! Oh yea...Harris Stowe used to be VASHON! This is St. Louis at its finest...one of the most racists states in the country (still today). Irons and Williams were too powerful BLACK MEN. They had to go! Percy Green even saw it. NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN THE STUDENTS. This is not about them. Its about business. Black People...WAKE UP and look closely at every person around (whatever race) and really see in their eyes. This is deep. Its deeper then we think. Veronica O'Brien is not going to understand. She herself is married to man that knows what's happening. She may not have even been aware of the damage that has been done when you cut off the head of two dynamic BLACK MEN in our community...and yes, she's a BLACK WOMAN! But, she's just being used herself. WAKE UP ST. LOUIS and dicuss the REAL ISSUE HERE! Black People don't know who to trust? Downs, Slay, Reems, Duckworth, Post-Dispatch, St. Louis American?
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:40:00 AM
It will be intersting to see how many bloggers actually say that 'I'm wrong.' Thats not it at all. Its not about race, its about the children. I say...'bull' to them already. What I said above is truth. We don't like it. Its ugly and it shows the need still for a Martin Luther King today. But, its real. Black people have to be smart about this situation and skeptical of those who 'say' they are in our corner. This may be our very last chance to make a final stand.
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:46:00 AM
Previous two anonymous writers, you're right. Racism is really bad in this city, but most of it is black racism. directed at anyone who isn't black.
Yes, we need a Martin Luther King who would be astute enough to see such ugly racism that castigates anyone who isn't black and any black person who works for the good of all St. Louisans, not just one race.
Until such insidious racism is eliminated, this city will never succeed. Black racism in many other major cities isn't of the magnitude of what it is here.
Wake up, see what the real problem is, and do something about it.
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:32:00 PM
Saying it's about racism is not much different than saying it is about the children.
Both are meaningless covers for whatever the particular agenda is.
I happen to believe that it was a good thing for Irons and Williams to go, because the majority of the students are hurt by a system where high-profile athletic stuff is glorified at their expense, and a superintendent comes in to market a corporate type of "reform".
I am saying so for the good of the students, or I am fighting the racism of the white mayor using a couple of uncle toms to advance his lust for power. Their candidates were voted out in the last school board election by black voters.
Of course, someone else can say I have it backwards, I am completely wrong, and their way is the one that is really for the kids, and their way is fighting whatever they say racism is.
For the kids--fighting racism--just meaningless covers for peoples' agendas or points of view.
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:05:00 PM
I find it odd that two of the recent posts think it's (white) racism to want higher property values, and saleable real estate that are a result (not the cause) of better schools. Why woould anyone want to compromise the education of our city's children, and our property values which results in a higher quality of life, better tax base, etc. etc. just to insure that the leaders are a certain color, Yes we could use the Great Dr King. I'm guessing he would repeat Judge A Man by His Character, NOT by the Color of His Skin!!!!
It is becoming hard to accept that some think that black racism is a wonderful thing while white racism is considered to be what it is--unacceptable
Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:23:00 AM
The whole property issue is more about gentrification. Sure you can make the issue about racism, but I would argue socio-economic classism.
While it's true Irons and Williams were dynamic, energetic men with a lot of ideas they are gone. Quit bashing Ms. O'Brien and let the new super and board get back to the business of helping parents and teachers educate children.
Turn the page and start quoting someone other than MLK. Let's try paraphrasing JFK; Ask not what your school district can do for you, but what can you do for your school district?
Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:36:00 AM
To the JFK Quoter..."SHUT UP VERONICA"...cause its probably you. Thats St. Louis's problem...we ready to move onto the the next bad thing, bad person trying to dupe us again (hint: Another New Superintendent) and won't hold ourselves accountable to the decisions that have been made in the past. I think racism is very much apart of what is being used to divide Blacks once again. That can not be denied no matter what. African-Americans are fighting with each other, while other plans and agendas are being made behind the scenes. You call those two great men Uncle Tom's and that's just the comment that raises the question in my mind "Who are you really for?" I'm with the previous blogger...I feel like I can't trust the many white people supporters OR the Veronica's they have working for them. MY EYES ARE OPEN!
Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:25:00 AM
Sports is used EVERYWHERE...surely in college. Athletes work double time as an athlete pimped by the school and still required to be a student after all the traveling and many late night games. Hopefully, 'some' can actually graduate. Because at most of the white schools...its not really designed for the black athlete to actually graduate. Just skills paying the bills. SO PLEASE! Don't even start talking about Mr. Irons glorifying sports over education. That is done everywhere. At least we know that he was keeping at least 13-15 boys a year off the streets. NO ONE HAS TALKED ABOUT THAT!Is that the BEST you can do. I'm sure the many Black young men that have gone on to actually finish college on an atheletic scholarship from VASHON would disagree with you, or any Black athlete for that matter...And the funny part...is that I don't even live in the city nor did I go to a city school. You people are so silly to me.
Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:31:00 AM
I too have watched what the SLPS is doing to Floyd Irons... and it is disgusting. This man is the coach of the current defending state champions and this board has this man practically begging for his job back. I am disgusted and humiliated for him. Is there no dignity on this Board. I do believe that there are forces behind the scenes at work. The blogger that spoke about the racism was hitting on a serious subject. Floyd Irons..a great coach, a great keeper of the Vashon and St. Louis City Spirit and a man that has a proven record is asking for his job back. And all I hear is Black people saying "he deserves it." Look at us! Come ON! Any other city would be having a Kick-Off Parade in Vashon's honor and Metro's (Champions). I have no faith in the SLPS at this point. This district has made it very clear and this board that its NOT ABOUT THE Students! Its about adults acting foolishly & pridefully. I too am sick of what is happening to our elite black men who we deemed St. Louis hero's. That's right...hero's.
Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:42:00 AM
Well, that's what we do blogger. We chop off the heads of ANY one that we think could/would be aspiring to be something of a black male hero. Irons was too powerful...he had to go, so we find whatever dirt we can and make sure to shame his name in the meantime. I enjoy seeing him beg. We knew that Williams would not take that sitting down...so that was our way of getting rid of him too. Plus, we sick of that Vashon High School. Everytime that man takes them to state we have to see that ghetto school take home another victory. For years the same ole thing with that school. Its time for Desmet and more aspiring schools to have a chance. So what if you disagree.
Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:49:00 AM
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Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:31:00 PM
I do care about my child's education and I do make sure my child studies because that's what will make the difference. And that's why I really don't care about sports and coaches. All the money spent on that, how about putting it into quality science labs or the libraries of the SLPS? That will build a quality district, not a bunch of money spent so kids can play with a ball and maybe some of them will get to college playing ball and others won't and they won't have the grades to get in either, so they've been left behind.
Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:03:00 PM
If I could recruit from all over St. Louis I would have a championship team as well. Irons didn’t care about student achievement only him being in the spotlight of sports. What did he do to increase MAP scores while he was principal? Why wasn’t Vashon named a blue ribbon school while he was principal? Remember, sports is an extracurricular activity and not everyone participates in sports what about those students? Were the teachers forced to change their grades as well so they could get into a college? There is much more to a school than a basketball team.
Last of all, the most important question: If Irons is such a wonderful coach why haven’t we heard about any job offerings from other school districts? Is it because he is milking the SLPS cash cow for all it is worth? I just wonder how many other high school basketball coaches are making $90+k a year?
Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:00:00 PM
Kudos to anon above. There is more to education than sports. My kids play sports, but if they don't keep their grades where I feel they should be, I don't need the school to make the decision, they will NOT play. Think about it people, if they don't make the big leagues, they make no money. Then what do they have to fall back on? Even if they do make the big leagues (and that percentage is low), what if they get injured? Then what. Without an education, our kids will fail in the real world. To the people who believe Floyd Irons was the answer to keeping the kids off the street, that's your job as a parent, not his. Keep your own kids off the street. Be interested in their lives, make sure they understand the value of an education. Kudos to you also, Brian Harris, there is a standard of educational excellence that has been lost, and it has nothing to do with RACISM. Why is that always the first thing out of some peoples mouths? It has to do with how much interest and effort you put into your kids. Like I've said many times, look and the # of people who show up for PTO Meetings and Parent/Teacher conferences. That should tell you something. If you don't show up for at least some of these types of meeting, then my guess is, you don't show up for your kids at all. PERIOD. Parents, look at yourselves in the mirror, and ask yourself if you are doing everything and anything you can do for your children. If you can look yourself in the eye and honestly answer yes, then I'm not talking to you. If you cannot-then my guess is you'll never "GET IT" anyway. Sad state of affairs, but I'm going to keep on trying for the sake of the kids. And no, I have no political affiliation or alliance. I really am in it for the sake of MY KIDS.
Friday, August 11, 2006 1:10:00 PM
Why aren't her Veronica O'briens kids in the public school? She has her nose so high up in the air she does not realize how bad she actual looks. You can tell she came from nothing, because that is how people act when they have never had anything. Now she has a big house a big title and power. All things that anyone can tell she's not used to because she's acting a damn fool. All the true ghetto in her has and is coming out and she doesn't even realize it. I thinks her big house,having a white husband, which of course you know she thinks that elevates her. But if it were not for him she would not even be in that big house and her title as School Board President has driven Miss O'brien over the edge. She is nothing but high class ghetto trash or at least that's how she's acting. JUST MY OPINION
Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:55:00 AM
Just Trash Veronica O'brien Miss all that is nothing, but ghetto trash dressed up. Look how she's acting. All the true her has came out. The way she was growing up. Before the house and Titles. She is ghetto ghetto ghetto and everyone can tell
Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:00:00 AM
The last two anons are the ones who sound ghetto. Veronica has done more for this district than you probably ever will. Remember the old saying, "It takes one to know one."
Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:16:00 AM
I am sickened by the constant mention of race in this issue. I am a single mother of 1 who just happens to be of caucasion persuasion and all of this turmoil involves my child. I was not raised to be a racist and I am raising my child in the same vain. This is not black or white, this is about our children. My child attends a racially integrated city school and I have never heard of any racial problems between the children. Many of the bloggers should learn from them as they seem to have a broader intellect on this subject. If you criticize others of a different race your children will learn the same. I supported Creg Williams, a black man, I do not support Veronica Williams, a black woman, I do not form my opionions from the color of one's skin. Yes, I agree racism is a problem in St. Louis, yes, I agree our black youth need black mentors, I also believe they require someone to guide them that has experienced what they have. Mrs. Bourisaw is not that person, Veronica O'Brien is not that person. As far as the protesting goes, Veronica has "made her bed and now she has to lie in it." I do not agree with threatening or bullying, however, I do agree with peaceful protest. Ms. O'brien is seeking notoriety by dramatic theatrics.
Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:33:00 AM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: Mes amis (My friends), how egotistical of some of you to judge someone's motives. En ma religion (in my religion) only God has the capacity to judge motives. There are some very conceited and egotistical people communicating under the cover of "anonymous" on this blog. Isn't it easy to slander others when you don't have to identify yourself?
Non, mes amis (no, my friends), you do wrong to falsely judge Mrs. O'Brien who is doing all she can to bring honor and stabilith to a school district.
One day you will know the truth that Irons and Williams were greedy men who did a lot of damage to a lot of people. Both men, mes amis, are bullies. Unfortunately, that is true of many men on the "down low," as Oprah has proven
Monday, August 14, 2006 2:27:00 PM
Pink Panther said:
"Isn't it easy to slander others when you don't have to identify yourself?"
Off all the self-serving bullcrap. "Pink Panther" doesn't identify himself (or herself), and then turns around at the bottom of his/her post to slander Williams & Irons, accusing them of being greedy bullies on the "down low". Without a shred of proof, mind you.
Let's have YOUR name, Panther. Not quite so easy, eh??
Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:00:00 PM
Appreciate the tip, Doug. I'll stay away from the Jeff Smith film.
Friday, August 18, 2006 10:00:00 PM
I am confused. I know someone will have the answer. I have read in the paper Irons was fired as the district AD.. thought he was just the AD at Vashon.
And with the shooting of the ex-student of Irons last week who was filing a lawsuit against SLPS and Irons, why is the media; TV not all over this like they were when he was whining about not being treated fairly. My point is, if they gave him so much time to plead his side of the story to the public, why arent they even metioning his connection to this student.
You can critize the board president all you want. But put yourself in her shoes...how would Irons handle people picketing his house around his kid and his wife?
I am not saying that the issues should not come to light. I am saying TV...you gave special treatment to Irons, he played on his reputation as a coach, not the facts, and that isn't good journalism.
Leave the house and the family of the board president alone. Picket at board meetings or at the board building. I am not so certain that whom ever killed the ex-student didn't do it to help Irons. Miss guided and tragic as that would be. If that turns out to be the case and in light of this incident I believe there is just cause for a restraining order at this time. I personally would refile.
And to erase all doubt, it would be a step in the right direction for Irons to make it perfectly clear that he has now choosen to take care of this matter through the courts and his lawyer. After all the public appearances about his disatifaction he should do one more and ask the public to leave the family and board president alone except when the board is in session, and stay away from her family period.
Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:42:00 AM
He was the AD for the entire district while retaining his status as Vashon's coach.
Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:51:00 AM
zduckworth, stop taking the Lord's name in vein and using this page as another opportunity to show just how shallow you are in your head. No, I don't need to leave my name cause u are stupid
Saturday, August 19, 2006 11:05:00 AM
I really don't believe that O'Brien really feels threatened. I do feel that she is determined to ruin the reputation and character of Floyd Irons. It seems to me that she behaves in a child like manner. I believe that she is trying to use the media to help her look like a victim..."Oh please help me because I'm afraid of the big bad wolf (Floyd Irons and/ or Demetrium Johnson. I'm soooo afraid. Feel sorry for me."
Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:02:00 PM
Anon at 8:02:28 pm, are you kidding? A young man is dead, and she was told she is next! If that isn't cause for fear, I don't know what is! As far as your pedestal for Irons, no one can ruin someone else's character. That is something we each have control over for ourselves. Your misplaced worship should be saved for people who have maintained their own good character, not an adult bully with an anger management problem. But then, I understand a lot of folks believed in John Gotti to the very end, too.
Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:26:00 PM
Inspecteur Clouseau ici: Mes amis, I did not say this, but several are saying Floyd Irons staged his chest pains in order to collect sick leave until he retires instead of going to work as a teacher.
The young man who was executed "mob style" because he was willing to tell all was laid to rest today. Peut-être (Perhaps) it will take a "Cold Case" investigation one day in the future to uncover what and who was behind his killing, as the powers that be probably don't care or won't expend too much effort finding out. Mon opinion seulement (my opinion only)!
Encore, mes amis, bullies (and you have plenty of them in St. Louis) are clever and hard to control. Employees at Vashon will tell you Irons was and is a "first-class" bully.
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:26:00 PM
has she been tested 4 drug use ?
Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:20:00 AM
protest at a private residence, and that protests should be held at the Board, rather than at members' homes. I stand by those remarks. But this has gone too far.
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